PofC Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I received a couple Okuma convector CV30D Reels that I am going to put Blood Run wire on. To save money sould I use a backer? if so how much and what? or would it be best to just dig a little deeper in the wallet and spool with all wire?? is there a depth chart for wire and a luhr jensen #1 dipsey? Thanks for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cduced Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I think most people just spool on 1000' on a CV30D. I know that's what I did. First time out, hook a 1lb ball to it and run it all the way out. Somewhere there is a wire chart. I have one taped to the lid of one of my boxes. -- Bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allout280 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 2nd that just put 1000 wire on no backer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyefull Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Thanks for the question and the answers. I am doing the same thing right now (mulling over the CV30's and wire). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbe20 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 seems like it has already been answered, but i will put in a third for just 1000' of Blood Run Wire. Fits very nice on a 30 series Okuma reel.after my issues i have had i will pass on some knowledge i learned from Okuma and Tuna Tom's. the wire may not cinch up on the spool. I have sent in a couple 30 series Catalinas for drag work only to find out the wire was not gripping on the spool. i thought the drag was not working when really the wire was spinning on the spool. Tuna Toms added pins to the spool so that is no longer an issue for me. other suggestions i was given was to add a real short section of mono backing just so there is something to grab on the spool. another solution i have heard of but can not comment on the success is to wrap the spool with electrical tape prior to spooling up your wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsniffer Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 my 2 cents is also for the blood run 1000 no backer needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ pluggin Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I have always just spooled up 1000' of wire instead of using backer since I don't like to have splices in my lines if it all possible. If you wanted to save some money by spiting it up don't see a problem with that either. I would probably use a small barrel swivel to make the splice if you wanted to go that rout. Like Josh said you will need to have something on the spool for the wire to grab. I have used electrical tape on my wire rods and have not had a problem with them yet, but if I were going to redo it I would probably put a short segment of mono on the bottom of the spool instead of tape so I can fill the spool better. I think this is also a good idea to do with braid. Mike, I have a wire diver chart on the boat, if I get there this weekend I will post it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtrollsouth Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 we usually use a little bit (75') of mono to keep tight on the spool, then put 1000' feet of wire on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nailer Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 For wire, I would send the reels up to Tuna Tom and have the drag upgrades put in. When you do that, he will install a line pin on the spool. No real advantage to putting less than 1000' on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PofC Posted February 12, 2011 Author Share Posted February 12, 2011 Thanks all for the tip on the wire spinning on the reel ,that would be a real surprise out on the water.Is wire depth much different than braid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ pluggin Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Wire will go a little deeper than braid, but wire always seems to catch more fish, at least on our boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ pluggin Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Mike, here is a pic of the wire diver chart I have on the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nailer Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Thanks all for the tip on the wire spinning on the reel ,that would be a real surprise out on the water.Is wire depth much different than braid?A 124 walker diver on wire will dive very close to %50 of your line out. Wire is a great way to go. It dives deeper, and the sea fleas don't stick to it nearly as bad as braid.Both will catch fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PofC Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 Kyle Thanks a ton for taking the time to find and post the chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarOutdoors Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I never had any luck on braid when someone convinced me how great it was. I really only run a 6 line spread generally 2 riggers, 2 dipseys and 2 high lines. I run leadcore, and then mono on everything else. I dont own any copper or a wire dipsey. How much do you think the whole setup should cost me, and is it a hot enough setup that I need to pick one up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Fishy-Anado Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Copper is a PAIN in the a$$, but catches fish later in the day after the hot bite when nothing else seems to. Hardly worth the trouble unless you are running tourneys because it isn't even that much fun yanking all that heavy line with a fish on. Wire divers are a must in my book though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikeman8 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 What type of connectors do you guys use to connect your wire together at the spool and end swivel? Just a couple of wire crimps? I have everything I need for my new wire setups but the connectors have left me scratching my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ pluggin Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I never had any luck on braid when someone convinced me how great it was. I really only run a 6 line spread generally 2 riggers, 2 dipseys and 2 high lines. I run leadcore, and then mono on everything else. I dont own any copper or a wire dipsey. How much do you think the whole setup should cost me, and is it a hot enough setup that I need to pick one up?Copper is really nice to have when the kings are really deep but for the most part you can add weight to your leadcore setups to get them down deeper. Wire dipsies are a must have for me. I started running wire a couple years ago and they have been my best presentation. I try to run them down just below my riggers with a FF combo. Both copper and wire setups are pretty expensive, it doesn't take long to reach a couple hundred bucks with these setups. What type of connectors do you guys use to connect your wire together at the spool and end swivel? Just a couple of wire crimps? I have everything I need for my new wire setups but the connectors have left me scratching my head.For the connection to the spool I would attach a segment of mono first to keep the wire from spinning on the spool and then tie an albright knot for the mono to wire connection. For the connection to the swivel give this knot a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1musser Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 For the connection to the swivel give this knot a tryYeah That:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1mainiac Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Don't forget to put a bead on the line before the swivel I also used to put a small piece of latex tubing between the knot and the bead so when you put it away you can reel the bead all the way to the tip keeping tension on the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mriversinco Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Great idea about the tubing maniac!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbe20 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 i used to use a brass thimble, crimps, tubing, bead for my wire connection. real pain when you have to re-rig on the water or in a hurry. Since switching to the softer blood run wire, i just tie an over hand knot with a bead in front of it. i don't think i could have tied a knot in the old wire i was using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Fishy-Anado Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Thanks for the idea on the bead guys. I always just reeled it up and hooked my snap to the rod tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbe20 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 i always make sure to use a clear bead, any other color would scare the fish away of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikeman8 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Thanks for the help. I will be rigging mine up here this week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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