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  1. Pugs got some good sea legs to hang out on the transome in high seas. Glad you hooked up with a few nice kings for the effort!
  2. That net is a weapon. Glad you had a well stocked safety kit on the boat. Thanks for the report.
  3. It really hurts when you can see them but not draw interest. DR down 20' was a great move!
  4. Fish continue to be holding on the inside taking the high baits. Glad you had fun and thanks for the report.
  5. Well that explains why I thought a passed the Parker in one direction only to pass another Parker in front of me. I though the seas were messing with my head. I followed one of them in. We did not fish the dark and pulled after the second triple strike cos we had most the rods out of the water and Brian had to work in the am so we probably followed Parker 2011 in. Would have loved to stay out a bit more after finally dialing in the spread for the night bite cos it got really active after the sun went down. Impressive number of fish Pug has boated this year.
  6. It doesn't get any more fun than a triple running solo with a long line trailing behind the fray waiting to collect any line that comes by. Landing all three is master angler stuff! You had the program and the right depth to wack em good!
  7. Don't be down on your trip. Running different stuff is a good thing. I brought meat and never put it out. A meat head and no paddle might have got things going for me early when it was slow and maintaining speed going south was difficult. You got bites on high divers with a SD/fly. Mine did not get bumped. Enjoy your fish!
  8. Thanks for the pic of your line up. I see you got the RV stuff to work. I could not.
  9. Fished this evening between Holland and Saugatuck sporting 4 riggers, to 1.5 set mono dipseys and 300 weighted steel & 15 color leadcore. Lines down just before 7:00pm. Lowest bait was 55' down. Most were 30-45' down. Started at first in 115-100 FOW on a south troll. Speed at the ball was 2.7mph for the most part going south. One quick hit near Saugatuck and that was it. Very disappointing. Flipped around North working 90 FOW and not much happened till I started changing the baits. SD/fly set ups were stone cold. RV/UV mag spoons brought no interest. Moved the SD/flies out of the spread for spoons keeping a SD/Brads Cut Plug on 300 WS. Moved all the RV/UV spoons out of the spread for either white or dark Mags. After the sunset we got most of our action. The Silver Streak Mag Pink Panties on a dipsey down 32 feet got bit 5 or 6 times just before and after sunset. Several good runs with a brief fight came up empty. Changed out the bent hook and replacing it with a sharp 2/0 VMC allowed us to land the last strike on that set up, about a 12lb king. Had a good long fight on the 300 WS with a Brads Cut Plug but lost that one close to the back of the boat. DW Mag Blue Green Spotted Dolphin 42' down on a rigger go us another 12lb ish king. Other bites came on a dark hand painted J-plug (SWR); Moonshine Mag soda (12# test rigger); and something else I can't remember. After sunset we had 2 short lived triples and landed only one on each occasion. Too many tips going ujp for the three of us to keep an accurate count of the legitimate strikes. Looking back on missed opportunities, I think the RV/UV lures that were high in the water column was the wrong way to go. After changing to non-reflective spoons, we go interest. Green or blue orSalmon Candy UV flies on a 8" spin doctor, 24" or 30" leader, rigger or dipsey was not a salmon favorite tonight. My purple Stinger high on a dipsey did not get hit after sunset. This presentation is usually money. Bloody nose likely would have been a better choice. Currents were strong and heading north was easier than south to control speed. Heading south, SOG varied from 4.0mph to 3.2. Trolling valves were engaged and disengaged many times to try to manage the speed changes. Troll direction was a better manager of speed.
  10. I saw the 3 footers and said naw, I am doing something else. Congrats on handling the seas - had to be a tough slog coming back north. Great fishing, make that catching! Fun night when you don't have to think much about what to put down when everthing gets bit.
  11. Smart move to put flasher/flies on the baits higher in the water column. Reports from several ports up on this side of the lake are now having success with that presentation.
  12. But you did land two nice fish for the dinner table!
  13. Super cool Mega Byte. So now I will come clean that I have a salt water rig on Fin Warrior that I started messing with perhaps 10 years back or maybe more and have deployed a half dozen times with a very short leader off one of the aft balls (Fin Warrior is west side rigged with 4 riggers), perhaps in a similar manner to the Magic Bait Ball and putting longer lines tipped with spoons just below and out to the side of this presentation. I have not dedicated enough time to this and I only ran the program mid-day when nothing else would get bit. There were a few trips that I was able to entice strikes mid-day when all baits typically shut down. Everytime I go down below in the cabin I see this rig and think man I really need to invest some more time on this. It takes a lot of coordination and care to get this in the water so it runs right - on a calm day. If fish are pounding lures, you don't want this in the water getting caught up with lines sporting active kings. If I get on this again with some commitment, would be happy to share my data.
  14. Jim Bobber - great to have your post. 7 for 9 is a quality outing - congrats!
  15. You sure did slay them last night. Pug must be exhausted. Very aggressive bite with SD/flies & meat on dipseys getting hammered from the get go. Thanks for the report!
  16. Appreciate the report that flasher/flies are now getting bit.
  17. The SH I caught the last outing was one of those prehistoric type plants where the meat had very little redness to the filet. I miss the SH with the dark red meat.
  18. What a bummer you lost your net and at the beginning of your run. So sad. I keep two nets on board just in case. Glad you gave it the college try to boat those hook ups!
  19. After making a supply run to Maple Hill Golf (can't fish all the time !), called up my dock mate Tom and he agreed to go fishing. We set lines about 6:30pm in 120FOW straight out of the harbor and headed south. Surface push was enough that I had to deploy trolling valves. Ran two riggers (SWR+spoon and White SD/Proctologist fly), two 1.5set dipseys (super slims looking to SH, by line counter out about 185', I set the depths with my Smart Troll probes so it is hard to say how much line is out) and 300 Cu down the shoot with KGF+Brads cut plug. We waited to add the 6th line but never did cos things were busy through the first hour of the run. The Brads cut plug got BIT OFF while deploying the line. First line in the water and a SH it it. Leader or knot failed. Got all the lines in the water and before adjusting the dipseys, one got bit and we released a small king. At 7:10pm we landed an 'eater king' in 117 FOW on a dipsey tipped with a DW Super Slim Blue Frog or Blue Leopard spoon. SWR with the mag DW Mag Blue Green Spotted Dolphin I have been running got bit down 66' but nobody was home. The previous dipsey got smacked again at 7:55pm producing a 10lb SH which we of course kept. Five fish in 90 min was a great start then the N/NW 20knot blow kicked in plus we had to make the decision to turn north from Saugy in case it got bad and I would have to run the shoreline on a plane all the way back to Holland. Everything shut down from that point on. We stayed in the 120-114 FOW for the most part, keeping speed as best we could around 2.4 and Fin Warrior managed that as well as she could but it was not the same as the south troll and before things kicked up. The wind backed down a bit and we managed to land a 10lb king on a dipsey up at 47' down with a Purple Stinger reg spoon (no suprise my running that presentation). We pulled lines soon thereafter. Notes: Soon as we turned north the damn biting flies came in. Marked one huge bait ball in 116FOW again but no where else. The water fleas were minimal. Great to connect with Parker and Pug o 68. # Time Fish Weight FOW Troll Wind Dir. Speed @ Ball Rod Bait Depth Bait Temp Bait 6:30pm Miss 122 S N 2.2 Copper 300 Brads Cut Plug - Watermelon Pattern 6:40pm King <5lb 122 S N 2.2 Dipsey - Mono 47 64 DW Super Slim Spotted Magic Man 7:10pm King 7lb 117 S N 2.4 Dipsey - Mono 61 53 DW Super Slim Blue Frog or Blue Leopard 7:20pm Miss 115 S N 2.4 SWR 66 48 DW Mag Blue Green Spotted Dolphin 7:55pm Steelhead 10lb 118 S NE 2.2 Dipsey - Mono 63 51 DW Super Slim Blue Frog or Blue Leopard 9:05pm King 10lb 111 N NE 2.3 Dipsey - Mono 47 47 Purple Stinger (Kevorkian) Sorry for the boring fish on the deck. It was the best I could do.
  20. Those are fish I would be proud to have boated. Nice work!
  21. Ed, all three kings were females, two natural and one plant. They had not fed recently until they met up with my spread.
  22. Janet and I made plans over the weekend to fish Sunday evening hoping the mild SE wind forecast held. Set up Fin Warrior in the afternoon. Swapped out a pair of 25lb mono diver reels for the reserve 40lb mono reels to mitigate the water fleas that have showed up early this year. Pushed off just after 6:00pm and setup in 115 FOW north of the harbor heading N/NW. The program: Five lines, two standard 1.5 set mono dipsey divers, two riggers and 300’ steel down the shoot. Dipseys targeted 45-50’ down and the riggers 55-65’ down. All spoons of a mixed variety on dispeys and riggers and a dark J-plug on the 300’ steel. The clear skies darkened with the two incoming fronts. Not sure if we were going to fish a little or fish a lot. The BP began to drop and I knew it was going to drizzle a bit. This got me jazzed up as fishing can be really good just before a storm, providing there is no lightening to deal with. Started off marking plenty of fish down 50-80’ in 115-125 FOW. Pushed out to 130 FOW and the marks were gone, same as Friday night. Moved back in and more marks began to appear. Everything looked good but not a bite. The current was wacky. Trolling speed 2.1 then 2.8mph and the dipseys per Smart Troll were up then down in the water column. After about an hour into the troll, the first front intensified so I made the big turn to head south, put on my rain gear and trolled 120FOW back to the harbor in case we had to rip and run. Rain started to pop up on and off. I was thinking this was ideal. Pulled one of the dipseys and retooled it with a mag bloody nose glow charged spoon thinking this would be money (it didn't work). Like an alarm clock, at 8:00pm, SWR with the mag blue green spotted dolpin got bit. Same time, same setup and spoon as Friday night. Down a bit deeper at 66’ on a south troll, we boated a 13.5lb king. Perfect. Got that rig back down and at 8:22pm it went off again. Boated a 12.5lb king. Hard to tell them apart but I did weigh all the fish. Changed out a now dull hook (do this!) and got that rig back down. The opposite downrigger tipped with a mag Yellow Tail spoon (or Mixed Veggie, I never can tell) was silent this trip so I switched it out to something darker (DW Half Moon – it didn’t work). I also pulled the SB diver orange/gold spoon and replaced it with a trusted Purple Stinger was not in the water but for a few hot minutes and bang it went singing. Another 12.5lb king ventured into the cooler. That one worked!!! It was now 8:50pm. I promised Janet I would pull lines at 9:00pm and with lightning visible on the horizon at that time, and more rain was coming down, even though the bite was good, it was time to call it a night. The long line did nothing. Not sure if it was the presentation or the depth of the lure as this was likely the high in the water column compared to the rest of the spread. Janet can handle the net well so there were no one man clown shows this trip. Three bites and three solid fish. A very satisfying outing. The black flies were terrible but we managed through it. Lot of Fin Warrior cleaning tomorrow. The fish will likely make it to the grill at the Eldean 4th of July cookout this coming weekend. Happy to donate. Made simple steaks with Friday nights catch. Salt brine for 4 hours, dry well, crushed black pepper and Old Bay, then on the grill for 6-8 min a side. Delicious. Brought fish to my mother-in-law for lunch. She loved it. Chef was very happy!
  23. I fished last night going 3 for 5. Specific to last night, these are my thoughts. 1. North blow created a big current. When that happens, I forego SD/fly setups for primarily spoons, possibly a J or a brads cut plug, or meat on a bait head only later in the season. 2. I started with UV spoons with the sun up at 5:00pm and the fish did not want them. When I moved to standard painted spoons, I got bit. I fish dusk a lot. UV or RV lures seam to shut off between 7:00-8:00pm, later if it is closer to the summer solstice. I see you did have NBK and a blue dolphin down. For whatever reason, I catch mostly lakers on NBK. Blue Killer produces more kings. 3. The baits right about 50' down got bit. I only had one bite at 43'ish at dusk and the was a purple stinger set up purposely high in the water column for dusk. 4. I have measured the depth of 300' copper trolling at 2.5mph on a calm day. It only gets down to 45'. It does not run near 60'. 10-color lead runs at 40' or a bit higher. Just guessing that running into the current, your long line baits might have been running way above 50'. Thats ok but last night was odd regarding the bait depth interest was only near 50'. Had I not been there, I would have come home empty. 5. Riggers: I run 15lb balls nearly all year. Trolling at 2.5mph, the depth loss due to blow back is about 20% (I know current is a big factor). So as a rule of thumb (and I have Smart Troll probes to confirm this), I multiply the downrigger counter by 0.8 to determine the depth I want my lure. For example, I ran my riggers at 62 to 64 on the counter to get near 50' down. And I use what I think is called the rule of 100'. That is, DR bait down 50' should have a 50' lead which is how I ran last night. BTW - I think I miss reported the spoon that worked the most last night. If it is not a mixed veggie, its a yellow tail. It does not have the red nose to the paint profile. I have a bunch of these from way back so I may have confused the name over time. Hope this helps. I bet you get a cooler full next time out.
  24. Glad you hand is on the mend and can handle a rod. Two very nice fish. Appears the lake did not lay down at all from last night. I ran North for 2 1/2 hours from Saugy to Holland to be close to port at sunset. Didn't want to run full throttle at dusk in the chop. The water fleas seam to be early this year, no? I was unable to trip some of the Ninja slide divers with all the pods on the lines. Hope you have a backup Hulk Mag - that spoon is money!
  25. Bigger kings moving in should make us all happy. Those 5 lb 2YOs need to grow up. 120 FOW worked for me in the evening as well.
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