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Jimmy said it perfectly. Start in about 40 and work out to no more than 100 to 120 concentrate on the top 30 and send one rigger down with a paddle or spinny and a meat rig. If u look at the preferred temp for King salmon it is 44 degrees or colder, The Pacific Ocean never reaches 44 degrees where they live.

Welcome back Jim. Not bad for the first trip after surgery.

Good Job Jarod!

The ultimate Chinese Fire Drill, 5 Kings on at the same time and only 3 people on board. Sounds like Heaven to me. WTG Jim.

MC2 has been sold.

Works fantastic, its and easy way to get a little piece to clip a board to and also gives a small amount of stretch until you get the copper line on the reel.

Yup 200 yards of 30# Power pro, a 10' piece of 40# mono to attach boards and 300' of 45# Bloodrun copper is perfect. You will never get 300' of 45# copper on a 45. Take a look at the reel fill calculator on this site.

Good job on the fish for the Girls. We fished Sunday in the slop.

The Lake has turned over. 63 degrees on the beach. We started at 100 FOW North in the 11's and ended up South in the 6's. Meat rigs down on the bottom and on wire dipseys out 230 set on 1. Ended the day 4 for 5 two 2 year old Kings, 1 shaker King and a 15lb Lake Trout. Lost a big KIng on the Wire dipsey with 11" Paddle Blue and white, with a blue Big Weenie Meat rig. Temperature at 110 feet was 44.3 degrees, at 90 it was 54 degrees. Fished from 7am to 1. the Lake was 2 to 3 feet and was capping when we quit. I hope we get a nice 2 or 3 days of westerly breezes to set the lake up.

You had better read the rules on catching ad using Alewives. I do believe that is a no no.

Well done Jarod.

There u have it Ed.

We use 8 and 11" flashers that are very similar but don't break away, I may have to order a couple and try them out.

No we dont, our presentations are very depth controlled and we use different types of line releases on our downriggers. I prefer a #33 rubber band and a Big Jon Band buster release. 1 wrap of the main line around 2 fingers pass the rubber band thru the loop and pull it thru itself attach to the release. I usually run flashers anywhere from 6 to 15 feet from the release. The most important thing is make sure u r trolling fast enough to get the desired action with ospinning it out of control and causing line twist. This is what the back of my boat looks like 4 down riggers and lots of rod holders. I am not sure what a break away flasher is. But I will post some pics of some of our stuff that works for us.

Jay: Welcome to the site. I grew up in the PNW and have fished out of Johnsons Point when I was a kid. We fish a lot different here than in the PNW! First we are allowed to keep 5 Salmon or trout per day, 2nd we Troll with 3 rods per angler, and most of use only spoons and dodger fly combinations to attract and catch the fish. The lakes are very temperature varied, our surface temps can reach over 75 degrees and we are very dependent on the thermo cline developing and giving us a depth that we can zero in on. I am very dependent on my Fishawk X4 to let me know where the temp break is. If we have a constant weather pattern for a few days, we can get a set temp break and it makes the fishing a lot easier. My Brother lives in the Portland area in Oregon and he fishes the Columbia River and the Ocean off of NW Oregon, like you they have a different style of fishing. I showed him how to use downriggers and how to use directional planers to cover the water column. I think that the NW fishermen could learn a lot from us here on the Great Lakes. I am going to try to fish out there in the next couple of years and hope my ideas will prove useful.

Right on the button, any kind of in line weight and you get the desired depth without all the hassle of more than 100 yards of heavy fight killing line out there. I hate catching fish on copper. No fight and its hard work. I run 300 and 200 of 45# but if I can get away with all Lead core and just add dive bombs I do. My most active presentations this year have been on Downriggers with free sliders. My wire dipsey presentations have been on fire too. Since May we haven't had a lot of action on the copper set ups. The Leadcore has been on fire. My real reaction to 450' or more is how much fun can it be pulling in a fish that has gotten all the fight taken out of it by the line.

I Fish St Joe and we have been fishing out to 300, but last weekend after the blow we found fish inside 110 and had a lot of bait. The key find the bait, fish are eating the alewives and the ones we are seeing are the 3 to 4 inch young alewives, try using all regular size baits instead of the magnum sizes. I usually run meat rigs and this season we have not had to use them. small spoons on free sliders and run SOG of 3 mph to 3.5 mph and the Coho and Steelhead are really cooperative.

I second that, if you have to call the Coast Guard they send Tow Boat US and the bill is $450.00. Membership is less than $70.00 cant remember how much I paid this year but its well worth it.

Fished St Joe Sunday Morning, was worried that the fish had scattered after the blow, so we ran to my last way point and started south. Was not marking any fish or bait in 170 all the way out to 240, turned toward the beach and headed back in. We started marking the bait again in about 110 FOW, and had lots of action after that. We took hits on riggers down 85 and 95 with free sliders. All spoon action, and mostly on The Free Sliders, The catch was 2 Coho and ! steelhead landed. But we lost 9 fish, 1 that got cut off on the wire dipsey right behind the boat another the just came unbuttoned as we were about to net it, 1 broken swivel on a 300 Copper. Speed was 3.0 to 3.2 on the Fishawk, and water temp at 60' was 47 degrees. East West troll and West to East were the only direction we got hits. Kinda a sloppy early but laid down about 10 am. Baits that worked. Stinger Modified Coyote and Modified Blue dolphin. Match the hatch the magnum spoon never took a hit, and the fish were full of 2 to 3 inch alewives.

The only time I use speed beads is early spring when I am running mono long lines for Browns and Coho lwith Yellow Bird boards., that set up works better in really shallow water. But for the rest of the season I run church board and I agree I don't want then to release. Tighten them down lower your rod tip and get the board into the boat take off the board and then fight the fish. (If you try to keep a high angle on your rod the board will dive on you, I lower the tip and keep a tight drag until I get the board off.)

Biggest problem with the Dacron is spiny sea fleas cling to it. I had it on my riggers several years ago and it lasted about 2 trips in the middle of summer and I went back to wire. The 200 power pro will work because it is very slippery and the fleas don't cling to it.

The fleas will still get on the wire but it is no problem to get them off and they only stick to the last 4 to 5 feet of wire before the dipsey. It doesn't interfere with the guides on your rod like the Power Pro or mono dipseys, and the Fleas come off easily by comparison. Good call on the wire and go ahead and use a good Okuma dipsey rod I put the Twill tip on mine and have no problems. remember to keep tension on the wire when you store the rod or you will get curly wire.

Nice night to be on the Pond, nice job on the fishies.

I have 6 reels all spooled up with Flea Flicker and can change over in a few minutes when fleas start being a nuisance. I had the problem 2 weeks ago and switched when we got back to the slip. I tie the Uni Knot and it never fails me. The biggest thing that I think is a problem with the line is that it tends to twist after a while. I spool full reels and can cut of 75 to 100 feet and not effect the way the drags work.

I put the wrong date on this post it was 7/14/2013 Sunday.