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  1. I'm not a charter either but I could not agree with you more. With our short season in the Great Lakes, if they lose another month of charters, some guys will lose their business. The slip payments, boat payments, licensing fees and insurance payments all continue but hard to pay them with no revenue coming in.
  2. Duke 63 Do you think following the Governors orders is going to eliminate the virus in MI? How long will that take? Why is it OK for liquor stores, pot shops and lottery tickets to be open and available for sale attracting people out into the public for these non essential trips, is that going to help eliminate the virus? Why is ok for someone from Chicago or any other state to travel to the 2nd home in Michigan but MI residents can't, is that going to stop the virus? My elderly neighbor's heart valve replacement surgery is prohibited but abortions are legal and are "life saving" according to Whitmer. That makes a lot of sense. If I take my immediate family that lives in my house on my boat, pack our own ice and food like we always do, how is that going to spread the virus? But it's OK to load them up on a sailboat and go out on Lk Michigan. Sounds like the Green New Deal to me instead of Coronavirus protection. People are pushing back because Whitmer's rules are over the top, unfair and lack common sense.
  3. https://mucc.org/mucc-to-file-lawsuit-in-response-to-motorboat-prohibition/ MUCC to file lawsuit in response to motorboat prohibition By Nick Green | April 16, 2020 | 0 Over the past six days, Michigan United Conservation Clubs has received hundreds of communications from members, the angling community and citizens throughout Michigan. These communications have conveyed concern over the recent Executive Order (EO) 2020-42 and its subsequent interpretation. First and foremost, MUCC is very sensitive to the public health crisis facing Michiganders. We have received a number of communications from those within our MUCC family who are being directly affected by this novel virus. The decisions that follow were not taken lightly, and this has weighed heavily on those you have chosen to represent you. Two overwhelming issues emerged from member communications: The interpretation, and subsequent enforcement, that motorboating is not allowed per the “Frequently Asked Questions” sections of the Michigan DNR and governor’s websites. The language surrounding shooting ranges and how that applies to sportsmen’s clubs throughout the state. It is unclear whether they are allowed to remain open, as most are volunteer-based and not staffed. In the governor’s FAQs, the shooting range issue is addressed, which does not take into account the vast majority of ranges owned and operated by MUCC-affiliated rod and gun clubs. We recommend taking this issue up with local law enforcement based on your individual facility’s operations to determine rules and procedures for safe outdoor recreation and will follow up directly with our affiliate club presidents and primary contacts with additional information. On Tuesday, MUCC consulted with an attorney to discuss if legal action was appropriate. The MUCC Executive Board convened Wednesday night to receive and review all available options to represent our clubs and members. MUCC retained Aaron Phelps, a partner with Varnum LLP based in Grand Rapids, for legal representation as it relates to the application of the EO to motorized boating. The MUCC Executive Board convened again on Thursday afternoon to make a final decision regarding the organization’s actions moving forward. The board heard summaries from MUCC’s lobbying firm, McAlvey, Merchant and Associates, and Phelps regarding political and legal options. In a 14 to 1 vote, with one board member absent, the MUCC Executive Board voted to file a lawsuit challenging Executive Order 2020-42 as applied to motorized boating. The complaint is expected to be filed soon. A grassroots fundraiser has been initiated. Contributions of any amount you can give will be imperative to our success in protecting anglers and our outdoor heritage. Click here to help the cause. This morning, a letter was sent to Gov. Whitmer expressing our concerns with EO 2020-42. Included in that communication was DNR Director Dan Eichinger, Attorney General Dana Nessel, Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, Speaker of the House Lee Chatfield, House Minority Leader Christine Greig and Senate Minority Leader Jim Ananich. MUCC and its members fully understand the risks that areas like the Detroit River, Tippy Dam and Saginaw Bay boat launches have posed. In the spring, these areas are flooded with anglers from all over Michigan and out of state. We support measures to mitigate risks in these highly-frequented locations. However, these are only a few small examples of the thousands of public and private accesses we have throughout Michigan that are infrequently visited by people with motorboats and could be vital to Michiganders’ mental health and wellbeing during this time. We can not stress enough our empathy for those of you who have been impacted by the novel coronavirus. You are in our thoughts, and united we shall stand. Since 1937, Michigan United Conservation Clubs has united citizens to conserve, protect and enhance Michigan’s natural resources and outdoor heritage. It has, and always will be, our duty to provide hunters and anglers a voice in Michigan. We hope you understand that unanimous consensus is almost impossible. MUCC staff and leadership have been faced with difficult decisions about how to represent you in the short-term while having long-term strategies in mind. Since our founding, we have worked through both strained and prosperous relationships with the Michigan Department of Natural Resources, the Michigan Legislature, the governor’s office and the Natural Resources Commission. This issue will not be an exception. Michigan anglers and recreational boaters are entitled to clear and unambiguous rules, and they should not be subject to criminal penalties based on arbitrary interpretations of a unilateral order in an FAQ. MUCC recommends anglers abide by all social distancing protocols and health best-practices per the Center for Disease Control while recreating. MUCC has been defending your rights to hunt, fish and trap since 1937. Click here to join today. Posted in Policy and tagged angling Michigan, boating ban, Fishing, Michigan EO, michigan fishing, motorboats, Whitmer ← Michigan Out-of-Doors New Counselors in Training Program
  4. I use #6 hooks. You will need heavier pyramid sinkers, probably 2-3 oz's depending on surf conditions. A 1oz will work if it is flat calm. Generally, flat calm days are the worst and 1-2 ft wave action is best. I've caught fish on calm day but if it is flat and I have a choice between the beach or the pier, I'd go to the pier. You don't need floaters all the time either, some times bags without floaters do better than floaters. My overall best bait tends to be steelie skein or king skein without bags. I use spider thread to hold it on a hook. That does not have floaters and works great. Some days a bag with floaters will work better than skien or bags without them. I tie up bags with both floaters and none but I'll always take some skein too. I like a nickel sized bag or clump of skein. In late winter early spring when water is cold, skein will catch whitefish if they are around for a bonus. I don't use shrimp often but it very popular for guys in Indiana off the piers. The fish shrimp under a slip bobber 8-10 ft deep with a small jig. You can't do that off the beach. Good luck!
  5. Use of a motorboat, jet ski or similar watercraft is not permitted. But it is OK to use a sailboat. https://www.michigan.gov/coronavirus/0,9753,7-406-98178_98455-525278--,00.html
  6. I agree with you the experiment to move Brown Trout up north has not worked well. I think it was worth a try. The prior stocking strategy was not working to provide significant plant to creel returns. The move up north has not worked out well either but in that case, they still did not concentrate plants into a couple ports. Just about every port from Pentwater north all the way to Menominee got browns. I'm not sure returning to the prior stocking strategy of spreading out plants across all the Michigan ports will do any better that in the past. Browns are about the most expensive fish to raise to stock due to the long time in the hatchery. Not sure what we should do going forward but I'm wondering if we did 2-3 huge plants like St Joe, Muskegon and Manistee(pick any 2-3) and put all browns into those ports, could we develop a fishery like Milwaukee Harbor? Maybe switch the 2-3 ports every year over a 3 year cycle and evaluate what works best?
  7. I'd love to see our Brown Trout fishery improve. I don't think we can raise them in the steelhead hatchery space in 6 months since they can't get add'l Brown eggs till this fall. They typically spend 1 to 1-1/2 years in the hatchery till planting size. I've always wondered if we concentrated some huge plants in a few ports if we could develop a Brown fishery like Milwaukee harbor?
  8. I'm hoping some natural reproduction can keep it going.
  9. I hope so. I saw on some FB pages that people were screaming to close the Little Manistee. There is an upstream limit to fishing there when it opens April 1 and there is a spawning sanctuary upstream of that limit so there will be a lot more fish laying eggs this year there.
  10. Due to the Covid virus, the Michigan DNR will not be harvesting steelhead eggs this month at the Little Manistee weir. The weir gates have been opened and all steelhead will be allowed to run upstream. This means there will be no steelhead plants in spring 2021. The is a bummer but it is being done to protect DNR worked who are packed in tightly together inside the weir building when taking eggs. The GLSI is advocating to replace those steelhead with kings based on steelhead equivalents. This will result in no net increase of predators, just replacing the 2021 steelhead with a smaller number of kings equivalent to the cancelled steelhead plant. Since the kings are only in the hatchery for 6 months, they can use the raceways for the 2022 class of steelhead who's eggs will be harvested in spring 2021. We love steelhead and hope plants can be restored for 2022. There is some natural reproduction in some rivers so that will it for the next year.
  11. Right now they are catching some coho close to the beaches from 3 to 20 FOW. Thin fins on boards, spoons on riggers and divers. They will move out some when the water warms in coming weeks. King fishing has been very good the past 2 years for about 10 days around May 10th. Most of that was from 60 to 120 FOW. There is a very good offshore fishery in May too for coho's steelhead and lakers from 180 to 240 FOW, that is a long run west. It is just getting started now, will probably see more reports in April as more guys get their boats out. One of my friends has a short trip Sat eve and went 6 for 7 on cohos in about 2 hrs of trolling.
  12. Coho have been biting in Indiana from shore and boats. I know a few were caught from shore and by boats at St Joe this on Saturday too.
  13. The GLSI wants to encourage all anglers to participate in Great Lakes fisheries research by turning in their micro tagged fish heads from fish with adipose fin clips.  The data from these wire tags is critical to evaluate the success of fish stocking programs.  Think about this; when micro tagged heads go down the grinder, you are in-directly telling the DNR that fish planting is a waste of effort and our license dollars.  When the DNR receives tagged heads for study that lets them know that stocking efforts are working and also how to make the best decision on when and where to stock fish so anglers benefit.    Turning in micro tagged steelhead heads will be especially important.  The DNR is in the 3rd year of micro tagging 100% of steelhead plants. If anglers catch micro tagged steelhead, the DNR needs those heads to determine which steelhead plant locations were successful and to evaluate how many wild steelhead are being produced. If you get a steelhead with an adipose fin clip, save the head, freeze in a zip lock and fill out the form, place the form in a smaller zip lock to protect it and put it in with the head.   Below are links for more info, the return form for micro tagged heads and a link to all locations where you can turn them in.  More info:    https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-350-79119_79146_82441_82708---,00.html Form for tagged heads:    https://www.michigan.gov/documents/coded_wire_tag_form-PR8550_35853_7.pdf Locations to return tagged heads:  https://www.michigan.gov/documents/dnr/CodedWireTagDropSites_320620_7.pdf?update21413 The GLSI is very excited to sponsor a reward program for angler data collection(micro tagged heads) for the MDNR and Michigan Seagrant this year.  We will be funding reward prizes for anglers who participate in the MDNR coded wire tag program and Seagrant's predator prey research.  Both organizations need anglers help to collect data to better study and manage our fishery.   The GLSI has always advocated that our fishery be managed by the best available science and research.  We want a balanced fishery with Kings being dominant but we want that fishery to be in balance with the forage base so it remains healthy for generations to come. We want to encourage anglers to participate in collecting micro tagged heads and stomach contents so our fisheries biologists have a broad and robust data set to use in their research.  We are still working through the details but we will be providing $1000's to purchase a number of prizes and gift cards for this.  All anglers who turn in coded wire tagged salmon and steelhead heads will be entered into a drawing for some nice gear or gift cards.  The more you turn in, the more entries you will get.   As we work through the process with the MDNR and Seagrant, we will have more details on how to participate this spring.   The GLSI we will be having our annual membership meeting in March 14th at 11:00AM at Jay's Sporting Goods in Clare Michigan    We are also launching our 2020 membership drive. The GLSI has not held a formal membership drive since we formed and we have been very frugal with the resources provided by our members. We are raising funds to expand the reward program to encourage angler participation in fisheries research.      Here is a link:   https://glsalmon.org/great-lakes-salmon-initiative-memberships/ We hope to see you at the annual meeting March 14th at Jay’s Sporting Goods in Clare Michigan.    
  14. Got out for the first time this year on Sunday. It was hot for the first 1-1/2 hrs, then dead for 3 hrs and they really fired up and we had our limit in the last hour. Skein fished on the bottom was the ticket.
  15. https://www.greatlakesfisherman.com/fishing-hunting-outdoors/forum/81-fishing-videos/
  16. https://dnr.wi.gov/news/Releases/Article/?id=4984&fbclid=IwAR2eSERwJqHFAPCnYBreeQLzzXFksv2KxN8mDoBMTtz1pbiCANbv7VdqokU MADISON, Wis. - To enhance fishing success and opportunities for all Lake Michigan anglers, while sustaining a balanced and vibrant fisheries community, the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources has released a new Lake Michigan fish stocking plan. "Because of work with key partners in the Lake Michigan fisheries community, Wisconsin will grow as the preeminent destination for world-class fishing. This collaborative approach and innovative management strategies will expand our diverse and exciting fishery," said DNR Fisheries, Wildlife, and Parks Director Scott Loomans. "I'm looking forward to big things." Lake Michigan is home to a world-class fishery, and there are anglers, businesses, stakeholder groups and communities that have a deep commitment to developing management strategies that will benefit this fishery for current and future generations, according to Todd Kalish, Deputy Director of DNR Fisheries Management. Throughout 2019, DNR fisheries staff conducted an open and inclusive process to gather input on management options for the Lake Michigan fishery. "Stakeholder input has historically and continues to be a driving force in the development of Lake Michigan management strategies," Kalish said. "A common theme of stakeholder input was a strong interest in developing innovative management strategies and collaboration that acknowledge economic, social and biological factors." For 2020, 2021 and 2022, chinook salmon stocking numbers will increase to 1,200,000 fish annually, coho stocking will increase to 500,000 annually, steelhead stocking will increase to 460,000 fish annually and brown trout, a popular fish, caught off piers and in harbors, will increase to 450,000 fish annually. "In meetings and in comments we received about this plan, there was strong interest in increases in stocking not just for chinook salmon but for coho salmon, steelhead and brown trout," said Brad Eggold, Great Lakes District Fisheries Supervisor. "This plan accomplished that goal and contained increases for every type of fishermen." Fisheries managers will assess potential changes to stocking numbers for 2023 and beyond based on traditional and new data and metrics collected and evaluated in 2020, 2021 and 2022. The DNR will also begin the development of a Lake Michigan brook trout stocking initiative in 2020. Brook trout are a revered native species that could produce critical near-shore angling opportunities. "We are excited to work with stakeholders to pursue reestablishing this native species to enhance angler opportunities and experiences," Kalish said. "Lake Michigan is a tremendous economic asset, and the fish stocking plan released today by Secretary-designee Preston Cole shows his vision of enhancing our world-class fishery in this great lake, making Milwaukee and the rest of our shoreline a fantastic tourist destination," said Steve Baas Sr., Vice President of Government Affairs and Public Policy for Metropolitan Milwaukee Association of Commerce. In addition to the 2020-2022 stocking plan, department staff, in collaboration with charter, commercial and sport fishers, plan to: expand salmon and trout net pen projects to maximize the survivability of stocked fish; develop and implement innovative public/private data collection initiatives to better inform future management strategies; enhance outreach and communication by more actively engaging stakeholders in communication initiatives; increase and enhance diverse marketing and outreach strategies; and pursue salmon and trout habitat enhancement projects. "I commend Secretary-designee Cole for his leadership and standing up for Wisconsin sportsmen and our impact on the Wisconsin economy," said Tom Kleiman, President of the Wisconsin Lakeshore Business Association. "Our priority throughout this process is to promote the entire Lake Michigan fishery, including the tributaries, near-shore and open water fishing. This plan addresses short-term needs with a comprehensive plan for future growth to enhance fishing opportunities in this great resource." To learn more about Lake Michigan fisheries, visit the DNR website. Last Revised: Thursday, December 05, 2019
  17. Welcome to GLF Mike, the new boat looks sweet!
  18. Nice job getting the kids out. Lakers everywhere this year. Where's all the immature kings for next year? We hardly caught any all summer. Could 2020 be worse than 2019?
  19. It will last almost indefinitely. If it does not have abrasions, frays or kinks, you don't need to replace it. You can also get away with just stripping off a few feet at the end if that is the only area with damage. if you drag bottom for lake trout, the end may get damaged but it will be fine a few feet up the line.
  20. After dark casting crank baits at Luna Pier, Sterling State park beach off the rock wall or the beach in waders. They come in shallow in the fall when waters cool.
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