Gnarf

how old?

1 year? 10?

If its not varnish id mix it with some seafoam and run it a bit at a time in your car. As long as your changing your fuel filter when needed youll be fine

Nice steelie!!

mabey the stress of going way out of temperature to get bait?

Good info. Any one else notice the runs are earlier and earlier? A couple years ago we caught a nice cooler of matures in the channel on August 26. When I was a wee lad we fished kings in the harbor in late September and it was snowing when the coho ran.

cohos already ran thru grand rapids. One of the earliest years for them. Usually october. Perhaps they are adjusting to the conditions that are changing every year.

had 5 or 6 20+ lber come to the back of the boat offshore in july/august but they all spit the hook or broke the line.

Finally got em in the net combat fishin.

Nice job!

What is that 3rd spoon down?

looks like non glow version of some moonshines.

Sunday sand docks. tuesday channel. I guess most of the action tuesday was out front in 40FOW. we werent alone in channel just 3 other boats on the other end. We try to stay away from others.

Combat fished muskegon on sunday and tuesday am.

12 fish total on 20 hits. average of 20lbs. 2 big males at 24lb, and 26lb. (personal record)

Worth the stress.

Think that's probably the last of the run except for a few stragglers. Hope I'm wrong!

Roger

My experience has been that there is a late push first or second week of october.

Nice job!

I just dropped off some fish to have smoked at big o smoke house. Great place!

Fished from 6am till 11am.

1 for 4, Shoulda been 2 but i botched the net job on a very big fish

all between first green bouy in mac and big red.

Chrome watermelon, chrome red head, and chrome j plug.

Traffic not to terrible but just enough to keep you on your feet. Seen a dozen other fish caught.

15 down on riggers, 35 back on divers set 3.

Water very cold in the clear. As low as 38.

You see that no wake bouy that doesnt sit straight?

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

So you are saying there will be "point targets" in Holland on Sat...nice.

and they move! good practice.

100 yards of lead is called "10 colors" or a "full core"

Other good lengths are 7 colors, 5 colors (half core), or a 3 color.

27lb lead is the preferred for big lake.

It was a nice year. Only made a couple events but i enjoy the competitiveness.

Now if dave could just leave a few fish for me to catch....

Is there a general rule for where to start to get in line?

Do you usually set lines coming from lake mac and just get in line? How big of a circle outside the pierheads do you usually go?

I might try some mud fishin but i dont wanna be "that guy" that causes a kerfuffle

Not sure i can get work off. Looks likes youll be playing in the mud without me =(

Fished from 445am till 11am

Ended up 2 for 7.

Most action early in 70-80 FOW, I started out alone but the pack setup around me on everysides and i got pushed around a lot.

Died after sunrise then moved around and picked up a few more in the 110-130 range on east west trolls.

Lost some big fish that bent hook and snapped leaders. The fish were getting very dark, males had good bend in mouth, nice eggs in female.

What worked:

full core - green flounder moonshine plug

250' 32lb copper - crabcakes moonshine

rigger 45' - mini blue flounder moonshine

dipsy set 1.5 back 100 - green dots 8 in pro troll, sour apple mirage fly

dipsy set 1.5 back 200 - Whitey On The Moon Stinky Stinky Bait Rig Combo

full core - stinger blue slushie UV

250' 32lb copper - silver horde pearl black dots plug

Sometimes you can be on teh fish and not get big ones.

If you want to target bigger fish set a spread of meat and plugs and run 1.8 to 2.0

You may not get as many but if theres any pigs you should find em

Flounder Pounder. Green blue orange red doesnt matter, RV and non RV.

1. Dipsy color hasnt really mattered to me. As far as flasher and fly color i just try different combinations i like and see what works.

my best are big white paddle/blue or green fly

mt dew spinnie, mt dew fly.

white pro troll, mirage fly with green beads

blue spinny, mirage fly blue beads.

2. My general rule of thumb for leaders length on flys is 3 times the length of the flasher, unless im running big paddles where i use 4 times the length.

Try some shorter and some longer but in most cases 3 times the flasher length is good.

For meat rigs i use the length right out of the box.

3. I use my snubber right behind the dipsys attached to the leader. I want it to snub the fish hitting the dipsy, having it the other way would make it very hard to pop the dipsy to bring it in.

4. As long as your hands are clean, and your not smoking all the time you should be ok, but adding scent cant hurt i suppose.

Who's out by the Lake shore? I'm out that way quiet a bit anyway. I know there is the place just south of Port Sheldon (where I usually go out off), but cant think of the name though.

gold coast outfitters is port sheldon. pretty good shop. Nice selection.

al n bobs doesnt have a very big selection on big lake fishing. outdoorsman is probably your best bet unless you go to the lakeshore.

Left the pierheads around 4:45am and trugged south into the waves about 2/3 of the way to saugy.

Set lines in 75 and setup northwest.

First fish at 5:30, then pulled lines at 7:30 with the building waves.

Ended 2 for 4. Both lost fish ran straight at the boat the whole time. managed to Land one other that was running at me. She really wanted to be in my cooler.

Rigger at 45 - regular blue flounder pounder - 1 for 1

200 copper - green flounder pounder plug - 1 for 2

full core - blue splatterback silver horde - 0 for 1

beats working!

and you got the skunk out