sherman51

the best prices i,ve found was on ebay. i think you might be able to do a search on line and find something alittle cheaper, but i doubt it. the same antenna at bass pro and cabelas was cheaper on ebay. good luck. sherman

i havent been on lake erie yet, but it wont be long now. i have had trouble getting my boat back from the marina. i put it in the shop as soon as i got it home from new hampshire last fall. i knew it needed some checking out. well the marina jerked me around until last week. so i got my boat and started rigging her. i hadnt bothered to register her yet, as i just didnt have any reason to, and the close to 1000.00 that its going to cost didnt help any. but i was really fired up my new boat running good and ready for lake erie. the biggest nicest boat i have ever owned. and i,ve been fishing the big water since 1977. shes a 86 sea ray amberjack 28 ft twin mercruiser v-6,s with 02 4.3 mpi engines. shes 10 ft wide. she doesnt look bad either. i only had to pay 5000.00 for her so i cant complane. i had to pay 4000.00 for a brand new trailer. which was almost as much as i paid for the boat. i could have gotten a used trailer for alot less money. but i wanted the new one. then the marina charged me 2900.00. but she is water ready, except for all the rigging, which i already have. well i went to register her and the people i bought her from had gave me the title all filled out and a bill of sale. so i thought i had everything i needed. but they had failed to give me a re-assignment of title. the re-assignment on the title was to them. so i tried to contact them, with no luck. it seems they have closed. so i have to go to court to get a title. which i really dont mind except for one thing. it takes 30 to 60 days for this process. then i have to wait on the license branch to mail me the registration and my season will be over by then. but all in all im doing good. i almost sold my 21 ft boat this spring but decided to hang on to her for awhile. i didnt take her to erie because i just kept hoping to get my new boat back and use her. well i,ve talked alittle on here about my problems and on another site im on. well one of the nice guys on the other forum was nice enough to offer me a ride on his boat. at first i didnt take him up on his offer. i just knew i was going to be able to get my boat up there. well i gave in and contacted him. so as soon as he gets it set up im going to lake erie. and then i,ve had the 1st 2 weeks of aug planned since last year with my sons and there families and my wife who wont even go out in the boat on big water. so im pulling my 21 fter out of the fishing pole barn and getting her ready to go. so my season is finelly going to start here in a few days. and im just alittle fired up and ready to fish. and just wanted to hear how your season is going. i read where a couple of other guys were having boat problems earlier in the year and just wandering how things went. have a great season to all you guys. you,ve helped me make it through this time. so thanks. sherman

hey thats really a great link. thanks a bunch. these look like they will be great for shallow and mid depths off my big boards. i plan on having some of these for next year. maby i,ll see you on the water sometime. sherman

yes, this does help. do you know anything about the tripz divers?? or if anyboby has more to add. the more info i can get the better. my year hasnt went anywhere near what i had planned. but next year im making the same plans. maby next year i,ll get a much earlier start and get to try some of these divers. THANKS BILL. sherman

thanks for the info. they are alot cheaper than the cannon tracks, if the will work with cannon ratcheting rod holders. sherman

still need these if you have any extra ones. sherman

come on guys somebody has to be able to help me out here. im always reading about people using these, or atleast the jet divers. is there a chart that gives the depths?? can you run them like dipsy type divers where you run 3 or 4 off the same side?? sherman

i dont know if im using the right place for this or not, but here goes. can some of you guys give me some info on the walker tripz divers and the jet divers?? i now use the lite bite slide divers. but im always willing to learn. is there a time when these would be better than the slide divers?? are these more for fishing shallow fish off board or what?? any help at all would be more than i know now. i started with dipsy,s years ago. then i had stopped fishing for a few years, and had read alot about the walker deeper divers, so when i started back fishing 2 yrs ago i bought all new deeper divers, and i did like them better no rings coming off. but i seen the lite bite slide divers, so i started checking them out. so before the season started last year i bought them. and for what there used for i just love them. but i,ve never tried using them to fish shallow. so if there is something thats going to do a better job of catching walleye i,m willing to try it. also i have about 6 or 8 dipsy,s and about 6 or 8 of the walker deeper divers. for 5.00 each plus about 6.00 for shipping as many as you want of them. i think i can fit them in the usps priorty box that costs somewhere around 6.00. just send me a pm if you want any of them. this isnt really trying to sell them. just thought i would mention then incase you want them. im looking for info and dont care if i sell them or not. its just a cheap way to get started with divers. THEY ARE USED!!! SHERMAN

thanks for trying, it does have the same style spoons that he uses. i really thought it was one of his new colors, but dahh i guess i was wrong.LOL. sherman

nope, it wasnt bakers dozen, even tho they do have a few nice spoons, they dont have the right pattern spoons. i still think you should send a picture to [email protected]

im telling you its a gale force tackle spoon. its not a color off his web site tho. did you happen to fish one of the tournaments that was sponserd by gale force tackle?? they gave out some of there spoons. try sending a picture of it to [email protected], or go to his wed site and check the spoon pattern. wwwgaleforcetackle.com. you checked out all those other sites, it wont hurt to check out there site. but there is one more place i just thought of that might make it. i dont even know if they have a web site but they sell on ebay. go to ebay and just type in trolling spoon. then if you find a spoon that is made like that one, click on it, then click on other items. its called bakers dozen. i will even check it out myself. sherman

you puttin bad mojo on them riggers?? I WANTED TO LOL BUT I WONT SHERMAN

i think gale force tackle makes spoons that look like that, but i havent seen that color. but i like it very much. i may just email him and ask if he,s got any new colors. sherman

that sure makes for a bad day. i could have had electric,s years ago if i had been willing to get them like that. i,ve always just used manuals until last year. then i got 2 big jons, then got my other 2 this year. i love them. and i waited until i just could handle the old manuals anymore. and guess what?? yep i paid for them myself. how can anyone enjoy using stolen riggers is beyond me. its bad out there and im afraid it might get alot worse. hope your new ones are blessed. sherman

just alittle wierd, but some awesome fishing. did you find out about the tagged fish?? it isnt one of cabelas fishing for millions tags is it?? sherman

hey welcome to this great forum. i also live in indiana, and have many years of fishing lake mi under my belt. but i have only been fishing erie for some time now. i live in muncie and have got some very good info on here and have tried to help where i could. sherman

yes you can get the lower welded. but you need to take it to a good welding shop where they can weld aluminum. as for the skeg i have heard of people having them welded back on. or if there is enough of the old one left you can get bolt on replacements. i think you can find them at places like bass pro or cabelas or try west marine. hope this helps. sherman yes they have them at cabelas. they are made from a polished stainless steel. just go down the list at the bottom until you find the one you need. these are alittle pricey so i would check around before i bought. sherman

all you guys just never cease to amaze me on this site. im sure most of the vets you honor pay it forward. SEMPER FI BROTHER. sherman

as i fish the geneva ohio area i will make it a point not to purchase a canada license and not fish there waters. it would just be to costly and take to much time to go all the way to land just to get permission to go a couple of miles across the border. i would hope that others will take this stance untill this matter is fully resolved. sherman

if anyone has any extras please let me know. when i bought i wasnt thinking. so i got the 24" tracks. now i want to add 2 more holders. so i need longer tracks. or if someone wants to trade 36" tracks for 24" plus a few $$$$. need all the help i can get. the holders are 65.00 eack and the tracks are 79.00 at amazon.com. i prefer the single axis holders. but would take the double axis if the price is good. i will pay a fair price and shipping costs. gas being so high it just wouldnt be cost effective to pick them up. unless they are reel cheap.LOL. sherman

im glad this is my first time posting this thread. now all i get to do is brag on your boat and all the guys that helped you. those riggers and rod holders were an awesome upgrade. i went with big jon riggers because of the price i got them for. last year i got 2 sportsmans electric. this year i got 2 more pro tournaments with 4 ft booms and auto stops.. got them new for 525.00, i couldnt beat that. then i couldnt use the short booms on the ones i got last year, so i sold them and got 2 more pro tournaments. i just wanted 4 electric. i,ve fished big water since 77 and would never spend the money until last year for elect. but my point is i love walker riggers. if price had been even close i would have walkers. you do know that walker has auto ball retrievers you can get dont you?? they bring the weights right up to the boat. you,ve already pretty much already done all the things i was going to suggest to you. looks like somebody may have really helped you out with those riggers and berts holders. you didnt go wrong with either of them. did you get the same help with placement?? i really had a hard time choosing ratcheting rod holders and tracks. berts looked good and cannon looked real good. but i found 4 cannon on ebay at a real good price. so i got them. they were the double axis. then when i started to get more. da$$ they were expensive. so i checked the single axis, and they were just great for what i wanted them for. i found then at amazon.com for 65.00 each. which is about what berts sells for on ebay. so i came out ok in the end. im not meaning to steal your thread. what i wanted to say was if you get more tracks my advice is get the longest tracks that will fit your boat, then you can add holders for more rods or just move the ones you have. i made the mistake of getting the shortest one that would work. now i want to add another holder there. and cant do it. i,ve got to get 2 more holders, so i may go ahead an get the longer tracks. i just cant really afford to do that tho. i dont use wire or copper, just the lite bite slide divers. and my 4 riggers and outriggers.( i have big boards but i am in bad health and just dont like to mess with them unless i just have to.) i,ve been running 3 divers per side, this year im going to try 4 thats why i need longer tracks and 2 holder. sorry this is so long but you and your boat just got me excited. go catch some fish. sherman

as far as i know they work the same except just the lite bite arm. i,ve never used the old ones, but i have looked at them. sherman

i would have loved to have been able to have helped with this. but i just live so far away, and i havent even got my boat back from the marina. but i do help support our vets as i am a disabled vet myself. but i still manage to donate to the veterans as often as i can. and thats a way others that want to support our vets and wasnt able to particitate in things like this. alot of people just giving alittle can mean so much. here a couple of years our local vets bought a brand new van for transporting our vets. it was totaly paid for with local donations. YES!! i was a cpl in our great usmc. discharged in feb 6th 1976. and im still proud of my service to our country. sherman

hey guy dont look like you,ve had alot of help besides the website. which does pretty much cover it all. then it helps if you have the instructions. i dont know if you got the old slide diver or the newer lite bite slide diver, which i use myself. because of the lite bite feature. you can adjust the tension on the front tight enough where you dont get so many false releases in rough water, then you adjust the lite bite arm tight for salmon or very loose if your getting alot of small fish. walleye fishing on erie we get tons of small fish, white perch, white bass, yellow perch, sh$t heads, oops i mean sheep head, and small eyes. but the diving part of them are pretty much just like dipsy,s. but you can use a very long lead if you want with the slide diver. i think the walker deeper divers are much better than the dipsy,s. but unless your using a long lead the regular slide diver isnt as good as the deeper diver. now that being said the lite bite slide diver makes the others out of date in my opinion. i still just use it like a regular dipsy. i tie my braid to the front arm on the diver. then i tie a short piece of line to a split ring, then lace it through the back line guide, then over the lite bite trigger arm, be sure to put the short piece of tubing over the end of the lite bite arm to keep your line from jumping out of the arm, then tie that to a rubber snubber, then tie about a 6 to 8 ft leader to the snubber, then tie on a good swivel, and then my lure. there may be times that a longer lead may catch more fish. but i like to use the diver as an attractor. so i dont have to mess with all that rubber tubing and stuff on the front. but you can get a set of rings 1 small and 1 large and a weight set with a 2 oz and a 4 oz for the lite bite divers. i just use the small ring and weight that came in it. then went to 50 ft of water. with 65 lb braid at 2 mph and on 4 setting(the settings are for left and right only) on my front rod then let out line until i started bumping bottom. it took 185 ft out to hit bottom with my set up. that came out to 2.7 ft down for each 10 ft of line out. so i just use the outside or front rod to set up my diver spread. so if i want to run 55 ft down i just let out 200 fol. that gives me 54 ft down. then i just stager them. i will put 3 setting out 180 ft next, then 2 setting 160 ft back in the back. then if you have to put 1 of the front rigs back out. just go to the other side of the boat, put the diver as far over as you can without getting in the other lines, start letting it out, when you have about 10 more ft to go before you have it all the way back out, just lightly lay your thumb on the spool, take it up and over the back rod or rods and put it in the holder and put it in gear, check your footage and make sure its where you want it. adjust as needed, this way i run 6 divers. you should use atleast 50 lb braid for diver fishing. the braid just works better for tripping the diver from the boat. and it lasts for years where mono needs changed atleast once every spring. im using the same braid i got about 12 yrs ago. the divers have a depth chart but remember its just a guide and not perfect. all line counter reel will differ according to the brand of reel and the amount of line spooled on them. one thing that helps is to fill the reel pretty full. and put the same amount of line on each reel. so if someone comes over the radio and says 3 setting 180 back, and you copy that you could be off by 20 ft out in actual line out, which could change your depth by 5 to 10 ft down. so its just a starting point. if your not catching anything try letting 1 side out alittle and bring the other side in alittle. also if you use the big ring and or the 4 oz weight your chart is useless. they will get very deep with the big ring and 4 oz weight. if your going to be fishing deep and more than 1 rod per side then i suggest you go out and get your own depth chart the way i did it. you could use 50 fow or 100 fow if your going deep. then let out line until you bump bottom. then see how many ft down you get for each 10 ft out. just do this on the highest setting your going to be using. and remember to put it in the front then use 20 ft less for each of your other rods. you can get package deals with divers rings and weights at slidediver.com. and there is another site where you can get these in metallic colors, if you want to use them as attractors like i do. i believe its allseasonssports.com i sure hope this helps. this is a huge post but i tried as best as i could to help. i guess i should have pm you. but this might help someone elce. good luck with your divers whatever you end up using. you are welcome to pm me if you have any questions. also you might try catching a ride with somebody that uses the slide divers. there is just nothing like going to school. i went out on a charter a couple of times, and learned how to use 6 dipsy,s. then i switched to the deeper divers, then to the lite bite slide divers, and have never even looked back. NOW GO SPEND ALOT OF MONEY AND CATCH A FEW LITTLE FISH.LOL. and if anybody has better info or something i missed please chime in. and please let us know if this helped, and what you decide to do. sherman