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  1. interesting you have identified the same pattern with naturals! yep I know you are very detailed and track things well.

    PUG knows a very smart captain in GH who has been doing this for 40 years and he explains it to him this way - the DNR screws up the stocking and here's how - at the weir where they harvest eggs and sperm they have 4 full time employees that all they do is pull kings out of a catch pen and extract eggs and sperm... all day long and all week long they do this.  Now he says that he has sat and watched them work several times and they are not large adult individuals but more your 90-110 pound build and that then to no suprise when it comes to selecting fish to extract from that 90% of the time they pick the smaller scrawny less healthy ones and leave the big pigs down in the pen. Hence what happens is the plants have the less than superior dna & genes in most cases and/or the plants are not the behemoth 4yr dna but instead most likely your 2year old jack or 3yr old early runner.  Makes sense to PUG. Makes sense to me too.  Nonetheless quite frustrating.  There is not a charter captain or amateur angler that wouldn't volunteer to do this work for free if it helped the fishery!

    PUG is even more contrarian and while the DNR has insisted for decades that there is no natural reproduction in the kzoo river he has spent a bunch of time up around swan creek in the fall and doesn't buy it for a second. They get it done up there and some of these naturals return every fall.

  2. yes it has also been very very slow off GH for the few charters that ran trips this weekend (oldest son told me)

    the ones my kids and pugs got this weekend on Parker were DEEP - riggers down 110 with heavy ball - deep diver out 260 - high diver out 290 if you even can call it a high diver at that point  :)

    all the graph bait and marks on top were just a distraction i guess...

    pug says be patient - cold water is coming... already 50 some degrees 60down in 90fow this evening according to the PS buoy... another day of east wind and pug is betting we can nail 3yr olds inside 100fow or better yet big kings in that 25-40fow

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  3. trolled for only about an hour while bringing boat around from west olive to holland tonight

    too warm to try in close so buzzed out to 170fow and setup there

    absolutely insane marks on graph top to bottom

    ended up 2for3 on three year old chinook

    was a blast

    what worked was white paddle out 220 on deep diver and also the other deep diver out 200 and then the rigger down 106 with spoon

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  4. You guys are smart how you are doing it.  I don't fish alone no more and am always with the kids (and pug) it seems but even with kids you wanna talk about and have a plan if someone goes over and we do.  When I was much younger I used to be pretty reckless and stupid. Super rough water and fishing alone a lot... invisible I felt. Then at a seminar I met some salmon fisherman who had their boat sink in 76 degree water and while they had life jackets and all shoot it didn't take long for hypothermia to start setting in. Fortunately someone randomly passed thru their part of the lake and saved em but a couple hours and those guys were messed up.  Warmer surface temp and a life jacket and you can still be in a world of hurt I learned!

     

    such a beautiful lake... the deadliest in the US though

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  5. thanks and good.luck to you if you do get out there in the next day or two - in the fall sometime 10am or 2pm in the afternoon is better than sunset so you never know

    please post a report so we can try to keep tabs on how many fish are still there gathering 

    i have to go out of town for a sailboat race this weekend with my son - haven't told pug yet but he is gonna be grumpy when he finds out!

  6. water has actually warmed some - didn't expect that (see satellite chart image)

    messed around trying lots of depths in close... slow start... buddy of mine got a few going in that 8-12fow by the pierheads so we tried that but just couldn't get a program going... all we got was a northern pike on a jplug 2 color - haha

    eventually we caught a coho in 35fow on dipsey flasher and then a chinook on the same dipsey flasher in 39fow and then after dark another chinook on a 3color with mongoose plug

    had to work way too hard for em tonight but PUG got a few

     

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  7. The kids and I whaled on em again off Saugatuck tonight. Same program except they were in a little closer (25-32fow). Pouring rain and some 4foot waves starting out made it more challenging but we just stuck to the program and did what PUG had taught us.

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    dipseys were quiet tonight 

    6color went with bloody nose spoon

    3colors went as did 5color with plugs

    rigger went 25down with glow spoon

    high line mono out 150' behind orange board with size5 goose went at sunset

    what a fall this has been!

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  8. was in Grand Haven with boat yesterday evening took the opportunity to troll the channel and out in front of the pier heads after the sun went down...

    was a lot of fun certainly plenty of chaos and activity

    lost one on a dipset plug in the channel by the back of the boat

    scored on another just outside pierheads 30min after sunset on 5 color plug

    the ride back into Holland late in the moon light was beautiful 

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  9. nice job tonight and thanks for the report

    we struggled amongst the pack of boats in tight off Saugatuck this evening 

    not positive what changed... maybe a big group of kings already moved up river OR more likely they were just frightened by all the boat traffic which unfortunately is only going to get worse over the next 3-4 days... for whatever it is worth we seen more of them jumping all over tonight than we had seen all week

    we ended up just 1 for 2 on salmon and caught a sheephead andncatfish

    had buddies on three other boats doing the same and these guys are real good at it and I think one managed 4 and another 2 and the just 1 like me

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