Sean, want to thank you for the information on the fishfinder. Called bethel marine today. great people, talked to Cheryl and ordered a DS600X. has already shipped. Cheryl said they bought a big lot of raymarines existing enventory on the 400,500 &600 fishfinders. If you are looking for a matching chartplotter,check out CascadeGPS. I bought my Simrad AP14R from them last yr. Another great company to deal with. I ordered a Raymarine RC435 today also. They are on vacation till the 16th but are shipping internet orders within 3 days http://www.cascadegps.com/store/raymarine-rc435-w-external-antenna-chartplotter-gps.html Thanks again for the info, I have passed the info on to a couple of other sites also Brian