Sea-Mac

Mark- We brought it to Gold Coast after fishing that dey and they could not find their commercial / certified scale to weigh it. After that we called every grocery store and bait shop in the area we could think of and NOBODY will weigh a fish for Master Angler...

EXEPT BOGOSMOKEHOUSE in Caledonia.... once again that's BIGOSMOKEHOUSE.COM Caledonia, Michigan. Just got back from there and they were great, weighed his fish and the place smelled outstanding as we were doing it. Ended up being 27.45 lbs. more than two days later so he just made it and thank god cause this took a LOT of time and effort and driving around!

Also far as the fishing on Saturday we didn't think it was really too bad or crowded and everyone was very friendly and smiling and waving at each other and rooting each other on from what we saw. Even those pesky silly sail boaters were getting into it. It mighta got a little crowded right at first light and for a few hours after as everyone was starting to head out (compounded by the fact the fish were in flurry mode right at first light) but you gotta expect that and especially on a Saturday, and my radio doesn't work so maybe I missed some things. I duno, but we had a good time.

Fished in L. Mac and the channel an out in front of pier and out to 50fow for about TWELVE hours and got five kings, one shaker, and one 25" walleye. The fish hanging in the middle was caught by the guy on the right in the blue (out in L. Mich.), it bottomed out the DNR workers scale at 30lbs. at the cleaning station and she said it was off by about two pounds making it proly 28lbs. Going to have to take it to a commercial scale tomorrow cause nothing is open today and see what it actually weighs and hopefully he gets a master angler award. The kid caught the rest.

Two SMALL dipseys 27' back. Two Riggers 12'-15' down w/ plugs 20' and 32' ft. back. Orange/Yellow/Greens

It's My fish. Winner of the derby. Waiting for my check. Sorry guys.

Sorry to hear about this Frank, but glad to see how your handling it. I'd a...

An old business partners of Willy's has a brother that ran a guide service out of Canada and had a guide/taxidermist working for him (some 3-5+ plus yrs. ago). He has done a walleye and a lm. bass for Cam and touched up and fixed a lot of our old mounts...but specializes in walleye and reproductions if I am not mistaken. If you would like I can ask Willy and try to get the contact info. for you and find out if he is still even around. Good Luck

I would say wd-40 definatly helps with sea fleas on braid so would have to imagine it would help w/ wire also...it will need to be applied frequently tho. I screwed up and put it on both my braid dipseys twice now

, so not really too sure how much more it helped w/ it or without it on braid...but I know im getting more fleas on my rigger cables and downrigger flouro line than my braid dipseys now, which is a first.

This might need a thread of its own...

An alternative to flea flicker is heavier mono. I have never been a fan of the flea flicker line. Just a personal opinion.

Same here...yes it works for fleas but at a cost (least for me), I noticed a BIG difference in fish hookups w/ flea flicker vs. flouro and reg. mono. on my riggers. I tried it about 5 years ago tho , it only lasted on my spools for around two months before I threw it out. I think its the "cloudyness" color appearance of it that fish can see and get turned right off from. The 100'-200' section of reg. mono. or flouro at the end would be the way to go if I was going to try that stuff again.

I know what it is...I just wana see if any of you guys know.

Its hard for me to believe that air bubbles are picked up by sonar like that. You would think it would shoot or pass right thru air bubbles. This turning out like a how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop kinda question.

didnt someone say put wd 40 on your braid to help repel them?

I dont know but im doing it right now anyways. I've often heard "It might not help but it sure doesnt hurt"...so why not.

Lowrance product support says they would say it looks like interference from other sonar sources.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FHVFV68LFQ

And Wagner-Ride of the Valkyries

I get it on my Lowrance and cant recall ever seeing it in under 100 fow. I sent the ? out to Lowrance product support today also.

I always assumed that to be a school of fish and the reason they stack up like that is because the tranducer is picking up multiple fish @ the same depths within the "signal cone".I know when I start marking that it usually isnt long til fish on. I would like to know the real proven reason for this also, good question.

Nice Brown Boys

Gotcha gotcha now...well when/if I happen to see anything in stores (G.R. area) in that quantity ill letcha know or if I happen to find a good killer online deal in that quantity ill pass it along also. Good luck either way you end up going.

Have used Suffix in 12lb. on my spinning rods. Not superior tho, I dont think less its been around forawhile. I tried two kinds (Suffix)when it first came out, (red packaged spool and blue packed spool) cant remember how one was diff. than the other without looking. But no complaints on either in 12lb. test. Granted im using a 4-8lb. Maxima leader also so not sure if that is gona help you any.

If Ande stopped making their line and its what you like and know works for you it might be best to bite the bullet and get a bulk spool now and then you got it for next time to.

If that not an option and nothing else comes up leme know what lb. and how much your looking for/ how much you used to pay etc. and ill do some help searching best Ande deals. From just quick search I found 650yd. spool 20lb. Ande $20 vs. 600yd. 20lb. p-line flouro $24. (didnt catch shipping price)

Havent had to play the compare fishing lines/ prices game in a few yrs. as im stuck on P-line myself for 15/20lb. rigger line. but I know how frustrating it can be when they stop making something you rely on and you gotta start experimenting all over again.

All set for now....

Kinda ironic but now that I think about it. Two/three yrs. ago I sold a bunch of spoons and im sure a few of them (proly about 6 or more) were Fishlander.

K. Ones on ebay are mags.

Mike, You and I both know that a few little things can add up to a big difference in the catch. The first thing is your confidence in what you have down. Obviously your confidence is in the old Fishlander spoons. I know you'll keep an open mind because confidence can change from one item to another. Just find out what they want and give em lots of it. The only two things I have confidence in is duct tape and WD40. Ohhhhhh!!!!! and maybe a lil red bead.

We just have to fish together again soon.

Sigh...Frankie, you know...I think its your fault for making me this way.

But you summed it up pretty good and Thanks.

wd40 and a lil red bead??? You might have to show me again what thats all about, say late May sometime in June?

I think that a lot of the difference is in thickness. DW and Moonshines are really thick , so you have to troll faster. Silver Streak and Warrior are medium thickness and catch fish great at all speeds ( I have caught salmon at 1.8 to 4 mph with both of these brands). Stingers are the thinnest and will catch fish really slow ( and the paint falls off). Some guys catch a ton on moonshine and DW but I can't ( I tend to troll slower most of the time). The thing is don't mix and match too much. you can run Streak and Warrior in the same spread and get them all working good. I would have a really hard time running stinger and moonshine in the same spread and get them all working at the same speed. NO YOU CAN"T GO OUT AND BUY CHEAP SPOONS

K. Thanks again Matt.

Pretty neat, thanks for sharing.

Compare standard size stinger stingray-fishlander-wolverine silver streak-warrior-DW-and flintstone along side and on top one another. There is only slight differences in all of them. With stinger showing the biggest diff. in that its alot thinner than the rest, and DW and flintstone being the shortest. Stinger and Silver streak look more similiar to Fishlander to me than Warrior does.

At some point it must make a difference.

Has anyone else ever noticed that on some days one brand will outshine the other?

Ive read a few posts on here and other sites that say this.

Should I be buying the cheapest standard size spoons I can find in similiar colors?

I only have about 20 of the Fishlanders left( except the #1 size ). 99 percent of what I run is Warrior Lures. Free trip ? You are killing me

But you have run them side by side and for salmon/ trout?

Why is 99% of what you run warrior?

Are you sponsored by or on the warrior pro staff?

@ free trip...id do it for you.

But ok ill just take my money back and you pay shipping...

They charged me $500 for it

Even the blue and green is on opposite sides...

I do appreciate your opinion Matt and its wut im lookin for, how well they compare. Not as much as id like to just stick with what I know works tho. Cause holding them side by side they look more than "slightly" diff. to me.

You seem to be about as passionate about Warrior spoons as I am about a certain Fishlander spoon, and I might yet become a Warrior fan right along side ya. Hope I do cause trying to find a lure you really like after you run out and they stopped making it can be a hassle. They (Fishlander) still for sale I found and who knows how much longer ill be able to find them. So got an urge to stock up before that happens. But if people say they work just as good and I also find they work just as good then case settled.

But if I dont...and since you said "Anything"....

I want to

trade my Warrior blue/green dolphin for one of your Fishlander blue/green dolphins and a free guided walleye fishing trip