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2 over hand knots for me..1 above the other

This is my prefered way but I do go thru the eye of the swivel twice first. To the reel I run on about 75 yards of 30# big game and tie the wire to it with an albright knot, never have a slipping line on the reel spool and have a full spool on the reel. I run the Okuma CV30 and it works great.

I run 150 yards of Power Pro 40, 40 yards of 20# mono and 300' of 45#copper on convector cv55's and have never been spooled. The Nono helps to hook up boards and provides a little stretch as previously noted. Matt's idea of winding on in reverse and then rewinding would work but like I said lmao its a lot of winding for an old guy like me. I use the reel fill calculator and have never over filled a reel and lets face it get reels big enough to handle the load. The CV55 is a great reel for copper, good drag and a loud clicker help detect hits.

Why not put in on in reverse,wind on "leader,lead or copper then backing" not need for calculating, I like easy. Then take it off and spool it.

Now thats funny don't care who u r.

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Jim Bobber posted this pic a while back.

I have used similar Tin Can doggers and spin-n-glows. going after lakers as well.

I only have three setups for lakers, a white, chrome, and a copper plated dogger. then for my spin-n-glows I have green - white, green-black, and orange-green.

Good luck

Jon got it dodger and peanut right on the bottom and slow down to about 2mph or slower. I do take lakers hi in thel water column in spring and early summer at King speeds. It really depends on the mood they are in but to consistantly catch Lakers the presentation Jon showed is killer. Meat Rigs also work really well for big Trout.

'Spin n glows and peanuts are both creations of west coast company called Yakima Bait, they have been around for a long time and can be found at any good big water tackle store, rigged or ready to rig.

The Big Jons are really nice and u can adjust the angles easily and easy fold up holders for storage when you put the boat on the trailer. I run Great Lakes trees and they work well but are not as adjustable as the Big Jons and are not as user friendly but for the $400.00 price difference I can live with it.

Any word on the St Joseph Buoy?

We usually run a bout a 6' leader, and the weight depends on the spoon and presentation, usually from 1 oz. to 3 oz. I run a high line down the chute with a bout 1 oz of weight, and on my 6" walleye boards up to 3oz so I can go from deep to shallow as I go out from the boat. This presentation can be killer on Steelhead in deep water. Spoons with some red or orange and a lot of flash that run well at high speeds. Stingers and Stingrays DOC and tequila Sunrise work well. Most important is find the cold water break and follow the inside of the break. Start at about 3.5mph and increase speed until u start getting hits.

We have done that when high speed trolling for Steelhead in deep water. Usually works really well but we are trolling 3.7 to 4.5 mph looking for Steelhead in the top of the water coulumn.

Thanks for this article Dave> I thoroughly enjoyed the website and admire the young man. To have the humility to be able to teach adults without sounding like a know it all is a special gift for a person his age.

The only thing I would add is be sure to get a dual frequency 50/200 khz. The 50 Khz gives much better definition at depths over 50' and has a wider cone. I really like the Lowrance gen 2 with 7" screen really nice and easyto use.

Thanks Dave we are always looking for a better Knife edge maintaining system. Will ck these out.

I tie them to a rope and cut the gills and bleed them out over the side of the boat. No bloody mess when filleting and the bleeding out makes for a superior product.

This is a method of having tastier filets and it really works. West Coast fishermen have been bleeding Silvers and Kings forever.

The best rod holders for inline boards all are angled at 45degrees, and usually stacked vertically 3 or 4 high, U run the rods at that angle to keep the board from dragging your line too much, when a strike occurs the board slides back and u lower the rod tip and retrieve the board then fight the fish from there. We have learned that deeper presentations are run closest to the boat, ie we run 450 copper then 300 copper then a full core or 10 color of 36# leadcore and then our short cores from there. Lake michigan angler towers really work well and are very inexpensive compared to some other brands. Don't be afraid to run light drags with clickers on to alert you to strikes, and good luck.

Count me in for at least $50.00 bucks a year, this info is really good for the sportfisherman, hope u can get the Cook Plant buoy deployed again in 2013. Where do I send the check?

Welcome to GLF Charlie, lots of info here, and u can plug your business too. Don't be afraid to post your reports and ck out the guys in your area for info u may have missed.

An invaluable tool for the sportfisherman, I used the St Joseph buoy all summer and garnered a huge amount of information from it, especially the temp string.

I really like the 19 strand and will never go back to the 7 strand again. Go with one spool per rod 1000ft in case you do have to cut back. Since i have changed i have not had the kink issues. They did have an issue at first but that has been fixed. It is easier to tie the wire knot for the swivel. Also (knock on wood) i have not lost a diver due to the wire breaking. For a swivel i use one of the ball bearing swivels off my spin doctors. The torpedo tips are great to work with use 5 minute epoxy to glue them on. They come with a piece of shrink tube in case the rod tip is smaller than the guide.

19 strand wire really works well and it takes the knots well. I have fewer kink problems and like others haven't lost a dipsy since I went to it. Tie on at least a #5 crosslock or coast lock swivel and have fun, I personally use the twill tips and have no problems with them, but that is personal.

Went over to pull the boat out and get it winterized on Tuesday, couldn't resist going out to try for some fish, should have just pulled the boat out. Trolled from the piers to 100 FOW and really didnt mark any fish and had no takers at all. Water temp is right but there is a lot of silt in the water out to 90FOW where it started to clear up. Too much trash around the piers to try trolling there, but the guys on the piers said they only got a couple of Whitefish for a mornings fishing. Will post reports when we launch again next spring.

I think your on the right track with the wire Brian, wire is a must IMO. You could also think about adding some copper to the mix but if don't have any large capacity reels $100 isn't going to make it very far.

That is where I would go with $100.00, if u have all that u need in the other areas. I can never have enough variety in presentations, I have wire dipsy rigs and power pro rigs too. In spring run small dipseys on mono along with all my rigger and long line presentations. The wire rods I use are just standard hard aluminum oxide guide Okuma dipsy rods with twill tips and good line counter reels with really good drags.

I run 300' of 150# stainless wire by Scotty on my Vector and Big Jon riggers. I don't really think that there are significant differences between brands of rigger cable. In the old days (30 years ago) the stuff was very springy and it was relatively easy to get kink in the cable if you got any slack in the line but I have not had that problem in a long, long time.

As for the termination of the wire I have used the Magna Dyne Klincher connector for 20 years without any problems. Much better than the old crimp sleeves and thimble... and a whole lot easier to put on the wire.

Picture of the Klincher:

What Ryan said.

I first read this back in July and was glad all were rescued. However having been fishing lake Michigan since the 1970's I have seen all kinds of weather and have mega respect for that body of water. Really appreciate the honesty that u presented the facts and the description of the boat sinking really hits home for me. I have fished out of So Haven in my 14' Lil Tramp, and anything over 2' sent me running for home.

Glad u made it to tell the story. My big question is what boat manufacturer fails to put positive floatation in their boats?

Man I hope it lays down for Sunday.

Man I hope we get a few more days of fishing this fall, but if not we will pull the boat out in 3 weeks. The Full moon is usually a killer for us we never seem to be able to get anything going at that time, but the biggest is the constant wind changes and warm water. Hope it will cool off soon.

U might want to run over to Hamilton and ck the Rabbit below the Hamilton Dam, In years past I have had a lot of fun there. Usually a lot of fish in the pool below the dam.

Brians

Slip 111 Brians Marina right next to Denny Neidlinger. Hope the Sunday forecast changes, I hate fishing 2 to 4,s at the piers, cause its gonna be 5 to 6 out deep.