Scale Chaser

When you guys are saying 10' leaders, is that from the back end of the dipsy to the front of the flasher/dodger? Or is that from dipsy to hook? If its from the dipsy to the flasher and I'm running meat it could be 16'+ from the diver to the hook! Which is what it looks like in the videos. I to have seen a number of the 333 videos (and have participated in a few TT 333 events) but don't run my wire diver leaders nearly that long and with very good success. After watching the videos I'm certainly considering lengthening my leaders, though. Thanks for the info guys!