Yea I was using them on salmon spoons so about 3.5" in length so it would go further with Cleos. I got all mine from jannsnetcraft.com. I could see a white base helping, but iv never did that. But yea just heat the spoon up and sprinkle it on with a paint brush is what I used. The big trick is getting the heat correct. Not hot enough and it'll come out kinda dull and blotchy. But when it works, they come out great