Twill23

I don't know why you would call it BS, it's says right there in the product name "NAVIONICS FISH N CHIP GREAT LAKES CF" - CF = Compact Flash. CF is not SD.

Right on the website http://www.navionics.com/MarineFeatures_FishNChip.asp it says:

"CF and MicroSD media cards are pre-programmed and ready to use with today's leading Navionics Gold compatible chartplotters…"

Yes sir, i understand that. It was mostly just my frustration with the fact that it was the wrong one, i can blame all kinds of different things but it in the end its my fault. I should of spent a lil more money and ordered from a place a little more recognized, and one with a better description. I also had to with the fact of me being in a hurry and not wondering about the CF at the end. Ole well.

Does anyone know if navionics would let this chip be used in the trade in program?

Recently i had wanted to order a new Fish n chip for my humminbird 788c. I looked around online and found one for a decent price. I orderd it. NAVIONICS FISH N CHIP GREAT LAKES CF was the description of the product. Well come to find out it does not fit into my micro SD card reader on my humminbird. It is a compact flash chip. Something i unfortunately never heard of or knew about. The worse part about it all is that it says right on the box, "Once this product is opened it cannot be returned." WHAT A BUNCH OF BS! I am now out $200 bucks. Well i guess now its my job to find someone who wants this useless thing. Just needed to express my frustrated with this :X i was really hoping to have it for the week.

Thanks jim,

After friday its supposed to clear up and be back near 80 again . Thanks for the help buddy. How's fishin in Muskegon?

The fish seem, from what i hear, pretty deep in Manistee. I don't mind either ports. i just cant make up my mind Have you fished recently in Ludington?

This week i'm finally gonna get some time off work and head back to michigan. We're gonna get away from the boat loads of lake trout and walleye and head to the other side of the mitten. Only problem is, we can't make up our mind, Manistee or Ludington? I am mindful of the tournaments being held in manistee both this weekend and next. Not totally sure if we want to fish it yet or not, but we're lookin at fishing from wednesday-sunday. Which port would you recommend for 28-31st?

I'm going to bow out of this thread. It seems someone has taken it a little too personally. You were not on the boat. None of the small boats watching through binoculars were on the boat. You don't have a clue if they were undersized lake trout or not. Now if gl2s still had cameras on the boat then there is No issue. There is an observer on the boat, if he did not step up and say something immediately then that's an issue with the way the tournament is run, not just an issue with what may or may not have happened.

I will totally agree with the jealousy factor. Too many people think they are better than what they are. They can't take a loss and take it like a man.

Lol I know the feeling. We were fishing a tournament in rough water when someone went to net the fish and hit a wave just right, he slipped and luckily caught himself before he went overboard. He manage to get the fish in the net but dropped the net in the water!!!! I popped another rigger, reeled up And snap the net. Got both the net and the fish!!!!

He said they were slow at getting the net..... besides their trophy case is full so I'm sure they didn't care about giving up a couple grand ove risking even more controversy over it

I think its a case of the walleye not being there. They've seemed to have moved north about a month earlier than normal. I don't know much about the area, but that's definitely the reason for the lower numbers around au gres

They withdrew to prove a point. If a full fledged investigation is put into affect and they do turn up something, they are banned for life from all of the circuit tournaments. They had an observer onboard, apparently that wasn't good enough. There is also a shot at 1000 bucks for the person who turns someone in. Personally I think its a case of jealousy. Why risk their name and sponsors for a bull s*** complaint. Smart move regardless if they're "guilty" or not

I think its extremely pathetic to protest the "slow netting." It's different if they're purposely shaking fish off, but come on. I think BCT did the right thing. Let the lil boys have their way.

It can get extremely crazy! Darkness just adds a new wrinkle to it. from 3 untill light will be your best time without the full moon. Its a lot like the daytime bite just like Nick mentioned. It's a blast if you can get into them we do a TON of night fishing here for walligators. Used to do a lot for salmon also, but that time has much since passed.

Nice Job Bill! Our festival is producing some extremely high quality fish up here in Alpena also. Tons of great fishing to be had!

Great trip Dan!

It's all personal preference. Some say that the copper gives off a certain vibration that attracts fish, other say that the copper in the water will spook fish. I personally use copper as a stealth method. My leads are long. But your going to be fishing a different area where a shorter lead(30-50ft) is preferred. I'd stick with what ya got. Good luck whack em and stack em

Steve, 45# runs about 80ft, 30# runs about 55-60.

Best I can figure 150 ft of 45# should run around 40ft like a full core.

Doh, As far as depth yea. Der der my mistake lol. Misunderstood that part.

Congrats Troy!, on both the fish and the little one on the way

A full core is 300ft(30ft per color 10 colors). It all depends on what pound copper you are using as well. It also changes how deep your bait is with how long your leader is. Anything after around 50ft of mono leader your bait will start to rise about your copper. Personally i use a 100ft leader. I'd rather have the copper tap bottom than the bait when im runnin it for lake trout. But thats just me and i know thats a little uncommon.

Personally i'd rather use an inline weight. They produce much less drag and are a lot easy to actually predict how far they will go down at which speeds(trolling bible). We're all about the much shallower water up norther here, but we love our 18's and our smithwicks.

I like my offshores. There is only one thing i don't like about them, you pretty much HAVE to mod them to use them how you want to. But yet they can be used for absolutely any type of board fishing you want to do

Great fishin!

Well to some people thats the only time(along with the late fall salmon run) they get a chance to harvest open water fish. I totally agree with the releasing of the hens. But as far as males, one male can handle several females, so i'm not as depressed when i see an angler harvest a mature male.

Also during this time of year you'll tend to find a lot of um over much deeper water than where your finding your salmon, even though your still fishing the highest part of the water column.

Speed it up and run some orange. It's not uncommon for steelhead to consistantly hit at over 3.0mph. We have a few speed trollers in the area who will run 3.5-4.0mph when targeting the steelhead.