Empty Hook

did the maiden voyage of the new boat sunday. didnt get out until 9am. fished only 2 hours but managed a brown off the boards on a green thunderstick. browns were slow this weekend here with the gin clear water. oswego harbor is turning on to the kings. kings were being taking from 100 - 130 fow. echips and flies and spoons doing it for them.

i forgot speeds start around 2.2 mph. we run as slow as 1.7 and as fast as 2.7. the fish will tell you what they want.

yes a meat rig is cut bait. we run ryes davis head and herring strips. place hte strip in the bait head and hold it in with tooth picks. run this as a good starting point 60 inches in back of your flasher with 40 pound seagur florucarbon leader. theres the prerigged twinkie rig this is nothing but a head with 3 flies on the leader spaced out evenly. great rig. last year we ran clean with no twinkies with the echips . if just starting use this KISS method and just run them clean for a while before getting fancy. you want the bait head to run 1-1.5 turns a second in the water. you can adjust this by bending the fin on the bait head, the more bend the faster the roll. you want a corkscrew type roll not a big wide roll. you want the hook a no.1 or 1.0 treble hook so the bottom is jut above the tip of the tail of the herring. for colors go with 2 simple ones to start glow green with a glow green head and a glow white with glow white head or a glow green head. other good ones are glow blue and glow purple. sorry if this sounds difficult or confusing but it is easy once you get the hang of it. its easier to show then to explain.

two riggers is fine if thats what your comfortable with. I down sized about 4 years ago to 3 rigger set up and catch as many if not more doing it. I run the east end of ontario where meat rigs have ruled for summer kings. i will run the 2 outside riggers with meat rigs 20-30 feet from the ball and the middle rigger will be the tailgun rigger. Ill run this 50- 100 feet back 10 feet below the deepest meat. salmon will come into the meat rigs thumpping and will sometimes vere off and back where they meet up with the trailing j-plug deeper and back all by its lonsome and fish on. j plugs are a awsome bait for kings we run them all summer. staging kings hammer them with the action they have. glow green ladder back with low light conditions and silver bulletts with the red head, watermelon are good light condition all around colors. we run the dodger/ flasher/ fly sets the same way or you can run spoons down the middle or j with a stacked spoon. we top this off with wire dipseys off the sides with echips and flies. 2 yrs ago we started running the echips both 8 and 11 inch and they are very impressive. its all we run now. 11 inchers for the cutbait and 8 for the flies. good luck

my brother in law put one on his boat last year and i got to run it . great ff and gps unit for the price.

HI found this form from LOU site. nice layout and wide spectrum of topics. I fish out of Mexico Bay Lake Ontario, and the camper resides at Flat Rock campsite. been doin this since 1990 when I got my first boat after a charter trip with Ernie The Fish DR. been hooked ever since. The name Empty Hook come from our very first charter when we didnt catch anything and we all bought those lil gold hat hooks and called ourselves the Empty Hook club. I bought a boat and told them come on the emty hook is going fishing and its stuck ever since. Good luck in the coming season and sail safe.