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I think for me it'll be a combination of doing my part on inspecting/rotating my snubbers(which I simply overlooked) and switching to the Opti snubbers that don't have the line down the middle.

I like the idea of having a snubber. It just gives the opportunity for the drag to catch up to the shock of the hit and allow line to come off the reel in a smooth, controlled manner, particularly when you're running the no-stretch stuff like braid and wire.

--Jason

Jason, I use the clear Opti Stealth snubbers. I like them better because they stretch a lot farther than the L-J's. The L-J's have a cord inside so they can only stretch a certain distance.

I may have to make that swith then. It was certainly a little worrisome to loose a fish for a snubber swivel

I was using the Lure Jensen snubbers with the swivels that come on them. I bought them at the beginning of the year last year, so I guess I should have changed them out sooner.

This is late, but I was really tired Sunday evening and worked a lot yesterday.

Since most of my crew and I drive a significant distance to get to Muskegon, we opted to make a weekend out of it. Since Paulywood covered the slow report for Friday night and Saturday morning, I'll cover the Sunday morning report.

We opted to go for broke and make the run north of Duck Lake and troll toward Whitehall. We finished 2 for 5 on the morning. We fired early going 1 for 2 on a double. The lost fish hit on a braid dipsey, set on 1.5, 150' back with the purple glow tape lure(don't recall the name). The landed fish was on the rigger, 75' down off the white spinny and fly, ~13lb king.

About a 20 minutes later, we fired on the same dipsey setup. I fought this fish for about 5 minutes when she came unbuttoned. When I brought the dipsey up, the snubber swivel had broken and pulled through the barrell. There went our hot lure and we didn't take a hit on the dipsy the rest of the am.

About 30 minutes after that, we took a hit on 200' of copper and lemon ice. That fish came unbuttoned quickly, then I lost that lure when a boat from Whitehall steered right across the back of our boat. Thankfully, all I lost was the lure.

Our last fish came of the green super glow down 90'; ~2lb king.

All of our fish came in 80-120' of water. 3 of the hits came on NW trolls. The surface temp fluxuated from 70-73F and a nice temp break came at about 55' down where we could find 49-55F water.

Thanks to everyone for putting on this event for a good cause. I had a blast!

--Jason

Good report. It was good having you aboard and you're welcome back anytime. That was a good deal of fun for two slow fishin' trips. Jared was a great sport, particularly for an Ohio State fan!

You didn't mention if your 'learning' was about fishing or............I should get back to eating my vegtables for breakfast.

Thanks for the report and good work in the tournament.

--Jason

That's good news! It's nice to hear that situation is getting resolved.

After I got back from fishing on Friday, I was talking with one of the commercial fisherman out of Muskegon and a DNR officer. I was told the Little River band had hired a boat to pull the abandoned nets between Muskegon and Whitehall.

On Saturday, I saw the boat pull in. Hopefully they get the nets out of there this week.

I agree 100% with this

That is a GREAT idea! I like that, too.

How many here feel the same way I do in that when mr big buck does come buy that the guys who are hunting this early season will end up shooting that deer. Of cours over by me is orangeville and they hunt eveyday of the year. And my fields tend to be a good choice for them to poach from the road with rifles.

That will deffinately happen along with the people who won't stop gun hunting in September! With the funding cuts, they don't have the man power to police the seasons they have. There's a small portion of hunters(same type who tresspass and ruin stands) who tend to show up more prominantly during gun seasons that will shoot whatever they see regardless of tags/saftey/boundaries.

My dad hunted his last year in 2007 due to the lack of policing. He's got to spend so much time keeping people off his expensive, freshly planted wheat/alfalfa fields that he gets no enjoyment of the season anymore. Plus, there's always people tearing up his tresspassing signs, stealing/breaking his deer stands off his property, etc. He didn't enjoy it at all last year, so that ended that.

I'm nearly to that point with the existing firearm season. I don't typically have any issues during bow season. It would hinder my enjoyment to find my stands all messed up on Oct 1st after fixing/replacing them all this summer from last year's gun hunt, particular because I pay the loan and taxes on my little piece of ground my stands are on. If I don't get enjoyment from the bow hunt, then I'll be in the same position as my dad and 2008 will be my last year. I hope it doesn't happen, but fearful it will.

If I'm using fixed sliders, I run ~6'(give or take) in length and use the cheap, spring loaded, stacker releases to clip to the cable.

Slow night in South Haven. We were scheduled to fish the morning, but the storms kept us off. We fished the evening and ended 3 for 3. There wasn't a a typical spread because I kept throwing anything I could at them. We did not mark any schools of big fish, but did mark a couple big fish here and there with plenty of bait. We caught plenty of spiney sea fleas, too.

We caught 1 fish right at dusk with a DW purple eggplant off 150' of copper trolling NW in 80fow; ~14lber.

We took one off the blue/silver 3-fly meat rig behind a white glow spinny 85 down over 100fow, 15lber.

The last fish came of a Moonshine lure(don't know the name, kinda NBK looking with green and white) off the copper over 90fow just after dusk; 12lber.

We ran lines for about 4-5 hrs prior to coming in. Three other guys came up to us at the cleaning station and they were all saying it was slow with a couple of skunks in the group.

Better fishing to come for the DW challenge in Muskegon next weekend!

Fish on,

--Jason

Thanks for the report. No doubt morning storms had a factor in the slow bite.

I know a guy who used to have copper to run his dipseys. He switched to super braid as high divers and wire as low divers. The issues he had was the constant load at the tip of the rod with the soft copper. It would fray the copper one tiny strand at a time.

With that being said, it did work and run the dipsey. His diver rods were never in very good shape either.

I've personally never tried it. The copper is more dense than steel wire, but also thicker for the same load capacity(lbs test), so I'd guess the dive curve would be very similiar to that of steel.

Not a whole lot of detail, but hope it's a little useful,

--Jason

The walleye will be throwing party out your way, Frank, while you're on this side of the state....

I heard the Salmon are quivering though.......

Good work again!

I am also looking for a ride on saturday. I would be happy to help with expenses. Thanks in advance.

Nick

I'm still looking for riders if you're interested.

Shoot me a pm if you're interested.

--Jason

Thanks for the co-ordinates. I was thinking I'd have to go on a search and find mission for the Dreamweaver since I don't not fish Muskegon very often. This means I have some lines in the water now :-)

If anyone needs an extra crewman for this event let me know as I'll be up for the Dreamweaver, but no ride on Saturday.

I will have room for at least one, maybe more. If you still would like to ride, please just shoot me a PM.

--Jason

Did you report the restaurant? Maybe there were more cases out there and the public should know.

Wow, glad that your buddy is ok!

I didn't report the restaurant because there's no evidence it was deffinantly the breakfast place. There are some nervous system toxins that take 24-36 hours before they'll make somebody violently ill, like Botulism.

I did not know that some types of food poisoning will cause seisure type symptons and even death! Yikes!

I talked to him yesterday and some of his feet/hands were still a little tingly, but could still feel all of his extemities for the most part. He could talk cleary, so a major improvement. He deffinately isn't soured on fishing and wants to go again.

We were scheduled to fish South Haven the morning of 7/3. We waited for the winds to calm down and ended up going to get some breakfast and then splashing the boat around 8:30 am. We got lines set on the lake and my buddy started looking really sick. At first, I thought it was just sea sickness(although he's fished ALOT and never once gotten sick). Then, his hands/wrist/feet started cramping up very tightly and he could not feel his extremities or tongue! We started talking to him and he couldn't talk back. Yikes! We got picked up emergency style and ran in as safely and quickly as we could. My other buddy did a masterful job at the helm in the seas while I contacted EMS. They met us at the south pier and he went to the S. Haven E.R.

The cause of the illness was not 100% determined, but food alergy/food poisoning is a likely possible cause of the cramping/numbness/vomitting/etc. He's doing well enough now that we can joke with him for looking like "Timmy!" from Southpark He was discharged in the afternoon after numerous tests and observations, although he still looked very pale and weak.

The South Haven response team was ready and waiting for us. My crew was fantastic(calm/collected/team work ethic). The E.R. was couretous and responsive. A big 'thank-you and good work' to all of them!

So, we finished the fishing day 0 for 0 and everybody alive and accounted for. I'll take that!

It's hard to tell if you're doing something wrong without knowing how you typically run your setup.

I have an 18' Lund and run 4 or 6 inline boards with 2 or 4 dipseys and 2 or 4 riggers without issue. I had some issues in the beginning with tangling cores, so I feel your pain.

It's easiest to set the outside lines first. Get them fully set and then start the next core. It's best to run the shallowest lines the farthest outside. For example, run your 5 color core the outside of your 10 color core. As mentioned in another thread, I find keeping the lines seperated a bit easier if you move the weights on the bottom of the walleye boards to front 1 notch. It helps keep the nose of the board in the water, particularly with your heavier presentations.

One mistake I used to make is setting the lines too fast, particularly if currents are fast. I find it easier to go a nice, consistent rate while pulling line out from the reel. This helps from tangling the line up on itself.

Above all, experience is a great, albeit expensive, teacher.

Big boards versus inline boards are another topic. They both have advantages. I'm quite sure you will be successful with the inline boards as you grow more comfortable with them.

When do you get tangles? Is it primarily when getting fish or while setting the lines or while trolling or??

I hope this helps a bit.

That's a nice looking fishin' machine! I like.

Good fish! If you're only going to catch one, that might as well be it.

Sign me up Caz.

Ya, I'm pretty big on keeping sharp hooks on my lures, but for some reason I was just not getting solid hook-ups. It was still good to be on the lake. I may try to nab some perch in the next week or two before getting back to salmon slammin'

I would take a fish that I suspected of having VHS to a DNR drop station just to find out if I was right. At many cleaning stations, like in South Haven, they have a freezer to put the fin clipped heads of fish for the DNR to pick up. On occaison, a whole, bagged fish will be put in the freezer accompanied by a note describing the fish.

We fished South Haven Saturday(6/21) in the am. Typical setup was 9 lines; 3 riggers/2 3-color cores/2 half cores/ 2 copper rigs.

We never got anything good going as the fish were hitting very lightly and finished 2-8 on lakers with a throw back.

We shut down in 90fow and played around in 80-100fow for a while with two releases and no fish to show. We then headed west to about 180fow before we got some more consistent hits, but still not much.

We ran mostly spoons with DW blue and green dolphins being most successful. We also took one release on a white pro-chip flasher with a green siggs fly.

When I read the slow reports from Saugatuck last week, The June slow down was not far from getting to South Haven and now it is here. Hopefully things pick up next week like they did in Saugatuck this week!

For the Perch fishing, two people at the cleaning station both said 20-30fow about 1 mile south of the piers was very good. One guy even said, "the perch so far this year are, on average, the largest I've seen in years." I guess we should have gone perchin!

tight lines and screamin' drags,

--Jason