DarkBlue

Propman,

PM sent back. Happy to help if anyway I can.

Chris

Boats are trolling on Manistee Lake right now. Arthur St. launch is still iced in so they are launching at First St. and coming up, or launching on the river and coming down. One half of the lake still has ice shantys on it, and the other half has boats trolling. Pretty cool. Try out in front of the Milwaulkee if you go. It's usually pretty good this time of year. I'll be testing the launch at First St. myself next week, and I will try to remember to post the situation. I hope to get in some brown fishing (work allowing) very, very soon.

Hope this helps,

Chris

Yup, the only busses coming here to Manistee are going directly to the River. Unfortunately it's the wrong river.

For those that hadn't heard my Wife passed away on Feb 4 and I really need to get back on the lake. Then maybe it won't hurt so much.

Very sorry to hear that.

Chris

Maybe I'm some sort of sicko, but the boat is already cleaned, gassed, batteries charged and all of my brown trout gear is rigged and ready with the poles already in the boat. I keep thinking that if I stare at the ice hard enought at the Manistee launch I can melt it, but all I got so far is a headache and a lot of strange looks.

Man' date=' you had me going.

I had to check your location three times before I got to the end of your story.

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Sorry, couldn't resist. At least I had someone going.

Chris

Now just have to clear the snow and Ice to launch the boat.

Don't tempt me, it might just happen.

Went 7/9 today out of Manistee, four adult kings and three steelies. Got everything around 150 fow. Glow spoons and meat rigs were the best. Then I woke up, saw that there is still three feet of snow outside and the temp. was 5 degrees. I promptly rolled over and went back to sleep. C'mon spring.

Chris

I can't wait for summer, nice vid. Does the kid say what I think he says at 0:54? I'm not sure if I heard that right, but I was crackin up.

Interested

Here is a link to the beach cam at Manistee's 5th Ave. beach. You can see the bad boys rolling right between the pier heads. Impressive and scary at the same time.

http://www.ci.manistee.mi.us/Beachcam.html

Chris

As long as the knife is not double edged, or being carried with unlawful intent then you are fine. I think common sense plays a role here and it's better to carry it in the bed of the truck, or in the boat because no officer likes seeing a large knife within reach of the driver or passengers, and you and your passengers may be removed from the vehicle until the officer determines your reason for carrying the knife and ensures the scene is safe. So my advice would be to carry it out of the vehicle, or safely stowed away within the vehicle.

Hope that helps,

Chris

If the knife is double edged (dirk, dagger or stiletto i.e. sharpened on both sides) and concealed within the vehicle or on your person then it falls under the carrying concealed weapons law. Michigan Compiled Law 750.227

If the knife is considered a dangerous weapon (obviously most knives are) and over three inches in length and carried with "unlawful intent" then it is also illegal and punishable by a five year felony. The big thing here is the unlawful intent, which going fishing or hiking is not. Unlawful intent would mean assaulting, robbing, threatening etc. Michigan Compiled Law 750.226

You can search either of the listed laws at www.legislature.mi.gov for more information.

If you are transporting your knife and it is not double edged, and not being transported with unlawful intent then you are fine. A smart rule of thumb is to keep it in the backpack, tackle box, trunk etc. and out of your range of accessibility. Inform the officer of the knife and it's location and your intent (hunting/fishing/camping) and you will be fine.

Holding it in your hand to show it to the officer when he approaches is a bad, bad, bad idea.

Hope this helps. If not let me know and I can answer any other questions.

Chris

I would love to be there and hope that you have a successful tournament. Sorry but at that time I will be hosting a tournament in St Ignace. I really hope that the weather cooperates for us. Good Luck,Chris.

Jason, PM sent to you. I hear ya on the weather Bob. A small boat tourney means just that, small boats. Hopefully the winds will subside a bit and everyone has a blast.

Good luck,

Chris

The Manistee County Sport Fishing Association, www.mcsfa.org, will be hosting a small tournament on Sept. 4th. It's an all day tournament out of the Ports of Onekama and Arcadia, however boat length must be less than 25ft and equipped with a VHF radio. The tournament is an all day/big fish tournament paying the top five biggest fish. First place is guaranteed $500.

Sign up/rules forms are available at most local Manistee Tackle shops, and the new tackle shop in Onekama. The entry fee is reasonable and explained on the entry form.

If anyone has any questions shoot me a PM and I can provide contact info for more information.

Hope to see some of you there.

Chris

Boat name "Borderline"

Just another heads up. As Bob said there are diminishing numbers of DNR Officers in the state, and not every call to RAP will be handled immediately. I wish that wasn't true, but it is. But, local officers from either the State Police or Sheriff's Depts. will respond ,on most occasions, immediately. The DNR laws are enforceable by local and state law enforcement, and we take them seriously. At my Post anytime we handle a DNR related complaint we forward a copy either to the State DNR, or the local Federal Forrest Officers for additional follow up, as well as taking law enforcement action immediately when necessary.

Many local officers are outdoorsman ourselves, and understand personally the problems that fellow outdoorsman face in dealing with poachers, trespassers, anti's, etc.

Chris

If it's facing the sun at given times of the day you will get white washed pics. You may even get false triggers caused by the sun. I learned this the hard way when I first employed some trail cams. Place it in a shaded area that stays that way throughout the day and see if it helps Mike.

Chris

Hey all,

I have a 2000 Yamaha 100 hp four stroke on my boat, not fuel injected. Today when I went out to start it it would not turn over when I turned the key. Played with the wiring a bit on the ignition and it turned over and fired up, but the dash guages were not working. Tried to accelerate the motor and it would accelerate some, and ran like crap. After about 5-10 minutes of idling the gauges started working and the motor ran just fine. Cruised around for a bit and shut it down, and when I tried to start it the same thing happened, and is still happening. What in the world is going on? Any help would be great before I bite the bullet and take it to the shop.

Thanks much,

Chris

We've had at least one of these a year in the 12 years I've been in Manistee. Sometimes mulitple. Luckily, no one was hurt this time, but we've had worse in the past. I've talked with many of the boaters who have hit the south pier and it seems that many have observed the stub pier light, which is visible over the south wall, and mistake it for the breakwall light. Other times it's been simple cases of too fast, alignment confusions, or too many spirits. Please be careful. I like to meet members of this forum, but not in those circumstances.

Chris

Shoot me a PM if you want to. I might be able to give you a couple hot spots that I think would be very good right now.

Chris

Come on over to Manistee and I'll be glad to take you out.

Chris

Nailer, I'm not trying to open any worms, just elaborating on an interesting point that Jim made. I'm not trying to crucify, or pardon anyone. Just putting the information out there. But I do see your point also.

Chris

Sorry but it is not a done deal Cheating to win money is fraud in this case for 7500.00 dollars which in this state is a felony. Letting them walk after the event is no different then letting a bank robber give the money back. The observer on their boat Sat accused them of cheating yet they were allowed to weigh the box and fish Sun do you think they would have let you do that? Multiple boats protested them on Sun yet they walked up and took the check and the trophy I have no proof they cheated however if they did they are not only cheaters they are criminals. Sorry pretty much all cheaters are criminals because they are stealing something they don't earn or deserve. It don't matter if you cheat at golf or any sport if you gain something from it you stole it from someone else however in this case we are talking about felony level theft. There are lots of people doing hard time for taking much less than 7500 bucks. The statment that they did nothing that others have not done to win means that what they did is something they and quote others do all the time to steal from the rest of us who play by the rules. I guess now I know how they always have great boxes and I always end up with some shakers in my box cause I guess their big fish program includes clubbing the little ones of at the back of the boat. As for the rest of the guys in Pro Class they should consider sueing them for slander as BC2 pretty much outright accused all of them of cheating in print either that or admit they all cheat now and then to win.

Jim, you got me thinking about this, and the possibility to be charged as a crime. The problem I find is who is the victim? Is it the tournament itself, or all the entrants. If it's all the entrants then it would be multiple charges vs. the tournament. Very interesting. Now I'm not trying to stir the pot here, just an interesting topic to think about.

I'm pretty sure that it would fall under larceny by false pretenses, and if I'm reading it correctly and the tournament being the victim then the penalty would be a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 10 years or a fine of not more than $15,000.00 or 3 times the value, whichever is greater, or both imprisonment and a fine. That of course would be applicable to every person involved in the act. If it was charged as all entrants individually being the victim, the loss being the entry fee which I am assuming is greater than $200 and less than $1,000, then it would still be charged as a felony with the penalties being punishable by imprisonment for not more than 5 years or a fine of not more than $10,000.00 or 3 times the value, whichever is greater, or both imprisonment and a fine.

Either way it's a serious crime, with stiff penalties.

Here is a copy of the law for your reading pleasure:

THE MICHIGAN PENAL CODE (EXCERPT)

Act 328 of 1931

750.218 False pretenses with intent to defraud; violation; penalty; enhanced sentence based on prior convictions; “false pretense” defined.

Sec. 218.

(1) A person who, with the intent to defraud or cheat makes or uses a false pretense to do 1 or more of the following is guilty of a crime punishable as provided in this section:

(a) Cause a person to grant, convey, assign, demise, lease, or mortgage land or an interest in land.

( Obtain a person's signature on a forged written instrument.

© Obtain from a person any money or personal property or the use of any instrument, facility, article, or other valuable thing or service.

(d) By means of a false weight or measure obtain a larger amount or quantity of property than was bargained for.

(e) By means of a false weight or measure sell or dispose of a smaller amount or quantity of property than was bargained for.

(2) If the land, interest in land, money, personal property, use of the instrument, facility, article, or valuable thing, service, larger amount obtained, or smaller amount sold or disposed of has a value of less than $200.00, the person is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 93 days or a fine of not more than $500.00 or 3 times the value, whichever is greater, or both imprisonment and a fine.

(3) If any of the following apply, the person is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 1 year or a fine of not more than $2,000.00 or 3 times the value, whichever is greater, or both imprisonment and a fine:

(a) The land, interest in land, money, personal property, use of the instrument, facility, article, or valuable thing, service, larger amount obtained, or smaller amount sold or disposed of has a value of $200.00 or more but less than $1,000.00.

( The person violates subsection (2) and has 1 or more prior convictions for committing or attempting to commit an offense under this section or a local ordinance substantially corresponding to this section.

(4) If any of the following apply, the person is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 5 years or a fine of not more than $10,000.00 or 3 times the value, whichever is greater, or both imprisonment and a fine:

(a) The land, interest in land, money, personal property, use of the instrument, facility, article, or valuable thing, service, larger amount obtained, or smaller amount sold or disposed of has a value of $1,000.00 or more but less than $20,000.00.

( The person violates subsection (3)(a) and has 1 or more prior convictions for committing or attempting to commit an offense under this section. For purposes of this subdivision, however, a prior conviction does not include a conviction for a violation or attempted violation of subsection (2) or (3)(.

(5) If any of the following apply, the person is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 10 years or a fine of not more than $15,000.00 or 3 times the value, whichever is greater, or both imprisonment and a fine:

(a) The land, interest in land, money, personal property, use of the instrument, facility, article, or valuable thing, service, larger amount obtained, or smaller amount sold or disposed of has a value of $20,000.00 or more.

( The person violates subsection (4)(a) and has 2 or more prior convictions for committing or attempting to commit an offense under this section. For purposes of this subdivision, however, a prior conviction does not include a conviction for a violation or attempted violation of subsection (2) or (3)(.

(6) The values of land, interest in land, money, personal property, use of the instrument, facility, article, or valuable thing, service, larger amount obtained, or smaller amount sold or disposed of in separate incidents pursuant to a scheme or course of conduct within any 12-month period may be aggregated to determine the total value involved in the violation of this section.

(7) If the prosecuting attorney intends to seek an enhanced sentence based upon the defendant having 1 or more prior convictions, the prosecuting attorney shall include on the complaint and information a statement listing the prior conviction or convictions. The existence of the defendant's prior conviction or convictions shall be determined by the court, without a jury, at sentencing or at a separate hearing for that purpose before sentencing. The existence of a prior conviction may be established by any evidence relevant for that purpose, including, but not limited to, 1 or more of the following:

(a) A copy of the judgment of conviction.

( A transcript of a prior trial, plea-taking, or sentencing.

© Information contained in a presentence report.

(d) The defendant's statement.

(8) If the sentence for a conviction under this section is enhanced by 1 or more prior convictions, those prior convictions shall not be used to further enhance the sentence for the conviction pursuant to section 10, 11, or 12 of chapter IX of the code of criminal procedure, 1927 PA 175, MCL 769.10, 769.11, and 769.12.

(9) As used in this section, “false pretense” includes, but is not limited to, a false or fraudulent representation, writing, communication, statement, or message, communicated by any means to another person, that the maker of the representation, writing, communication, statement, or message knows is false or fraudulent. The false pretense may be a representation regarding a past or existing fact or circumstance or a representation regarding the intention to perform a future event or to have a future event performed.

History: 1931, Act 328, Eff. Sept. 18, 1931 ;-- CL 1948, 750.218 ;-- Am. 1957, Act 69, Eff. Sept. 27, 1957 ;-- Am. 1998, Act 312, Eff. Jan. 1, 1999 ;-- Am. 2004, Act 154, Eff. Sept. 1, 2004

Former Law: See section 39 of Ch. 154 of R.S. 1846, being CL 1857, § 5783; CL 1871, § 7590; How., § 9161; CL 1897, § 11575; CL 1915, § 15320; CL 1929, § 16916; Act 164 of 1867; Act 218 of 1879; and Act 234 of 1895.

© 2009 Legislative Council, State of Michigan

kidding I hope

Yes, kidding.

I have two of them. I'll start the bidding at one million dollars.

Chris