Hi, one week-end in early jaly last year out of Port Darlington on Lake Ontario, nobody was catching anything and we brought in a mixed limit of Kings, Steelies and 2 nice browns. All of these were caught on a Dreamweavewr super slim area 51 spoon with a copper back. A pro from Quebec that was out to film a video for TV, used one of my copper back area 51 spoons the next day and did real good also. The rest of the season, the spoon still produced but not on a regular basis. I always keep one in the water on a high diver and I will be looking for some browns near shore with this spoon next spring. I guess that copper most work better on a cloudy day, that's was the case on that july week-end last year. Denis