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    Trolling Setups - before I buy questions

    in Salmon Pro's Connection

    Posted

    Update fellas: I went with Fish On Vertical Rod trees (triple tubes with net holder at the top)

    For Downriggers I went with the Magnum Metalz 2500 (2-rod holder). The MM’s key features for me were the autostop clutch, the 200 FPM motor, the 300’ of cable and the swivel base. The price for this was way cheaper than comparables (BJ, Cannon, Scott and the gold plated Traxtechs).

    Now for the bad part. Mfitz was right. The Lund Sport Track Downrigger Mounts will not work. A lot of slop. Photo attached.

    I have a video, which is better than the photo, but now way to upload it.

    I have already ordered 4’ track systems for each side and am emotionally prepared to drill holes in my brand new boat. Hard to say that. IMG_0421.jpg



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    Trolling Setups - before I buy questions

    in Salmon Pro's Connection

    Posted

    Magnum Metalz look good but very expensive. I ran Cannons for 25 years with a variety troubles. Switched to Scotties in 2013.  No troubles no regrets. My HO.

    Thanks Mike. I priced all. For the “aluminum/stainless” downriggers (Big Jon, MM, Ciscoes, and Traxtech) and when I list out comparable functions (autostop, motor speed/size, and cable length (300’), and two multi-axis rod holders, Magnum Metalz scored higher in features and price.

    Cisco and Traxtech were more expensive, but have added features that were not important to me (programmable keypad, jigging action).

    The Cannons and Scotties were definitely the most common and the most recommended as well.

    This weekend is the big dollar spillage for me after I see the gear at the Sport show.


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    Trolling Setups - before I buy questions

    in Salmon Pro's Connection

    Posted

    Thanks EdB. Their website is scant on details and no you tube videos on GLH at all.

    I see a lever on their rod holder, (revolving banner pic on their homepage)which tells me these rod holders are not a “one handed” operation. Prices are even more than the Traxtech holders (the most expensive).

    I gave them a look, but I’ll pass. Thanks again.


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    Trolling Setups - before I buy questions

    in Salmon Pro's Connection

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    Thanks Mfitz. You are on the side of going with tracks and I may do that after I use what I already have and what the boat came with.

    I am going to begin this setup using the Lund sport track. The Cisco mounts (that I have already) for a single tube holder will work for a triple tree (horizontal) rod holders, and the Lund downrigger mounts will work for the downriggers.

    If I feel like I want to drill holes and use tracks for more support, Traxtech, Berts, and Cisco will all be price competed (of course).

    I have a meeting with Big Jon HQ this week to discuss my plan and purchase from them if they will get close to other internet prices.


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    Trolling Setups - before I buy questions

    in Salmon Pro's Connection

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    Thanks Mega Byte. Yep, the consensus is no dipsies under planers. It felt odd to me when I read about that, but the product description for the magnum sized planer board includes dipsies. They must be talking about the little divers.

    Understand the utility of the trees now. Glad I asked the question. Again, it felt odd...so I thought (and I was right) that dipsies and trees are not so good. (Height and strain)

    Yes, this is quite a “build out” for the new boat. If it wasn’t such a rush bringing in those silver fish (lakers included), I would just go with what I have. But trolling has really been much more fun than I expected and my wife is hooked as well. So, I feel good about blowing cash on this. Got a nice tax return due to the increase in the standard deduction, so that encouraged me to start closing loose ends on my questions.




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    Trolling Setups - before I buy questions

    in Salmon Pro's Connection

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    Hello Pro’s. I have a 2018 Lund Tyee with the 42 degree Sport Track system.

     

    Last spring/summer I trolled with cheap plastic rod holders for dipsies and leadcore. I had a ball. My wife had a ball. We actually found something that we both enjoy and we were getting pretty good at.

     

    I have saved all winter for downriggers and rod holders to make trolling and rid management easier and make the bot a little more professional looking.

     

    I am ready to make a huge purchase but wanted to voice my concerns and see if you guys will guide me in the right direction.

     

    My gut feeling and current path forward is to buy Big Jon Pro Pro Tournaments affixed to the Lund Sport Track downrigger plate. The silver finish and the autostop are the sell points for me. This will also give me the ability to move the downriggers up and back, and remove them on overnighters. I have seen zero reports of the Lund Sport Track not providing solid support. Let me know if I am making a mistake.

     

    My second purchase is Big Jon vertical rod trees (the three rod holder) on the Lund Sport Track downriggers plate. The one hand operation is the sell point here. My concern is...Do you guys run dipsies on these vertical rod holders? I am kind of worried about the strength of the tree especially at the top. Seems like my dipsies are beastly pressure.

     

    My other purchase is to by the TX-44 Church Magnum Planer boards for dipsies. Do you guys use planer board with dipsies? I like the big boards for lead core, but never used them for Dipsy divers because I thought the diver would just pull the board under or the board would just come off.

     

    Thats quite a lot to digest, all responses appreciated. Target date for purchase is 5 March for all the gear.

     

     

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    Idea for “Great Lakes Trolling License Stamp”

    in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout

    Posted

    Not a fan.  here is why
     
    all of us that would by a stamp to run 6 rods  great,  Low-life "Sam"  does not,  but still runs 6 rods.  so now the DNR will stop a random boat with one person on board that appears to have a 6 rod spread out.   I'm not going to be very happy to keep being pulled over to see if I have a stamp or not.
     
    make it all or nothing.  charge everyone higher fee and move the rod limit to 6 or leave it alone. 
    this shall not become a buy up by choice option, as it will be impossible to enforce.


    All Good Points. They could eliminate the rod limits all together and just enforce daily and possession limits.


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    Momentary Switch vs Autostop (Big Jon)

    in Salmon Pro's Connection

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    I am in “research mode” preceding a $4k purchase of downriggers and a Fishhawk system.

     

    I have a 2018 Lund Tyee with 30 trips on it. Great boat, caught a lot of salmon and trout, but I have named it the “Twisted Dipsy”. Tired of Dipsies! Ready to bite the bullet on downriggers and want to go with Big Jon.

     

    I am wrestling between the Tournament Pro and the Brute ES and here is why. Big Jon has the autostop on the Tournament Pro. They have the “momentary switch” on the Brute. Both functionalities don’t come on one system.

     

    Finally, my question is...which do you pros use more? The autostop? Or the momentary switch?

     

    Unless I am misunderstanding the operation of both, you can only bring the Tournament Pro all the way up using auto stop. There is no adjusting (feathering) in the up direction.

     

    The brute allows you to adjust depth in either direction, but you have to keep your finger on the button all the way up.

     

    Please recommend a model and which functionality you use the most.

     

    Thanks much.

     

     

     

     

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