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Z boy

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  1. I would suggest posting a picture of your boat so people can make suggestions on rod placement. There is a lot of knowledge on this board. As many have said, 4 riggers is very "old school". Mid 70's that was the way to go, but not today. The water is so much clearer I think that the extra cables and canon balls will do more harm than good. I would rather see you stack two lines off each rigger or run sliders than put down 4 riggers. A simple 6 rod set of 2 riggers, 2 dipseys, and 2 core can catch an awful lot of fish. Every day is different and rarely are all 3 presentations good. Usually one outshines the other. Sometimes one (riggers for example) can be good at first light and then something else may take over. Don't give up on the dispsey's ! Learn how to run them. Flasher Fly off a dipsey is a great Big Fish combo in mid to late summer!! I always have a minimum of two dipseys out for the reason below.. Dispseys = Speed and direction!!! I do not have down speed / temp on my current boat and I do not miss it. I constantly look at my dipsey rods to tell me if the speed is right and what the currents are doing. Based on your reports, you are struggling to catch fish. Speed and the direction of troll are very important. Running a dispsey on either side of boat can tell you a lot. How much bend in the dipsey rod can tell you how your speed is. Experiment and change speeds and see how much bend there is in the rod. When you do start hitting fish, make a note of how much bend there was. Try to mimic that amount of bend the next time. Through trial and error you can get it figured out. The direction of the troll is also important as it effects how well your lures are "working". I want to see both dipseys pulling away from the boat equally. If I see one side pulling way out and the other being pulled slightly behind the boat, under water currents must be pushing all my lures to the side. I will turn slightly until I find the direction where my dipseys on both sides are pulling away from the boat. There is lots to consider. There is a lot of knowledge on this board. Keep asking questions and keep reading. Then experiment.
  2. The Orange Michigan Dolphin on full core!! We took 5 or 6 on that combo including two of the fish that we weighed. The 17.8 that took big fish came on it - that fish came after 10 am. Riggers w/sliders (cheap sunglasses, habanero, full nelson) were good early but the fish were small - one was a steelhead on the habanero. Later in the morning (last nights bait) took a 15lber down deep on a SWR. We also took a laker on that combo. We took one of our top five on the spin doctor - fly on a dipsey. That was the only rip on that. We took another of our top five fish on the monkey shine off the other dipsey. We also missed a couple of good fish on that same rig. That combo would be my second choice. On the other lead core we ran the golden orange crush - we only took one small fish early on that. Considering what we did on the other core - this lure produced poorly. Most of our big fish came after 8 am. The early bite were mostly small except the one on the spin doctor - fly. There were four of us on board and we ended up with our 12 kings to go with one laker and steelhead. It was the best day we've had (so far) this year.
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