Just wanted to say how much I like the idea of the pier fishing section, that was a great idea. I'm basically a pier guy from western Ny, been fishing from shore for at least 25 years. Usually do really good on spring brownies and rainbows. This fall so far has sucked , with the good day now and again. Once again , great idea ! I talked to the people who ran the ESLo derby about a shore division ,but never got much of a response from them. Keep up the good work on this site !