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if you go to big jons web site click on specials, they have seconds for like 75 a piece. only thing wrong with them is the color isn't perfect all over the place. you might have a band of lighter orange running down one side. i just got a set from them a few weekes ago and had them in 2 days for like 160 with shipping included.

here is the link:

http://www.bigjon.com/pics/pics.asp

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