Killin' It

Terry, some form of interesting format would be fun.

Weigh 1 of each spieces

10 points per fish plus weight

King

Laker

Steel

Brown

Considering the date, Laker season may be in full effect and it would cause people to go searching a bit

Marty is in charge of all lotion application.

I will take rod holders and transom saver.. .see you Saturday.

2 Berts ratcheting rod holders: $50

2 for $50

if so I will take these,

Are you goign to the swap meet saturday?

I'm down

Barn,

I can only speak from my experance...

I ONLY put my nose into the current when I troll. (Sometimes weather does not allow this)

In saying this, I do not have a fish hawk nor a sub troll so I find it easier to repeat what I am doing this way. If I stop getting hits, I will pick up and run back to where i started or at least troll twards shore so I can get on the same heading going back into the current again.

Just how I do it, does not mean its right.

In june, I ran out to 300 to avoid the 19" lakers

Is there a specific tournament(s) that you're referring to where you see a problem?

I didn't see a problem in the math, the math adds up. I checked it long before I brought it up...

What I stated was " I was just asking a simple question of where does the money go" This is somewhat misleading of my own question.

Maybe It should have been whats the point?

Fishy, You have a valid point, I could start my own event or series of events, but that would divide a small population even more, which defeated the purpose.

Jim, I will not get into a liability discussion, I see your point, but your math does not add up if your looking at the payouts vs money taken in for the Holland event. 100% payout based on amount of boats.

none the less guys, I was just throwing it out there the question of why does the AM side cost what it does for an armature event. MOST of us do not fish for the money, but the bragging rights of beating others at any given day.(And maybe a cool trophy or two)

Don, The Musk trip port is on the list of maybes this year because of that reason.

The reason the smaller events are 10-15 boats is simple, no advertising, shops promoting, ect.

OTW... I never said they were pocketing the money, I was just asking a simple question of where does the money go. I understand that its all volunteer and those people are greatly appreciated.

Matt...

I feel for the pro's and that god awful amount entry fee.

Honestly I would rather find out who the best is by KISS (Keep it simple stupid)

2 days

3 fish (333 style)

1 entry fee (100-150) dollars

90-100% payout 10% to season winner(I understand trophies cost money but not that much) average of best 3 scores.

No divisions

Come get some!

Pros, AM, Weekend warrior,

Winner takes all 150 bucks a boat * 60 boats (about what Holland had in 2014) $9000 in total money. if 100% payout.

If some of these teams are as good as they say.... well prove it...

Back to the main point... no one can explain why the AM side costs so much....

BBQ lunch??

Shirts??

Trophies??

I would rather the boy scouts sold hot dogs and beer at least then a good cause is getting my money.

Frank,

I have alot of respect for you and what you say, but you are wrong on this one.

All of us would be staying in our own league, its called the Amature Leauge!!

The question I posed is why is it so expensive?

" It eliminates the amateurs and newbies. Play where you feel comfortable."

I feel plenty comfortable fishing vs alot of these guys, however I do not feel comfortable spending a house payment to do it.

The only thing it eliminates is the AVERAGE JOE, who has a normal job, a couple kids, and a house payment. (or priorities).

These events should have a TRUE amature devsion, also known as an open division in which the cost is respectable. 100-125 fits that bill. $250-300.

Could you imagine if the cost was 100 dollars? 100 boats 10k first place payout. Sign me up!!

Why are they so dang expensive?

This does not make sence to me at any level. The talk is always that we want to grow the sport and get more teams involved, but the entry price to fish the AM side is gross.(In most cases)

Holland 2013

Professional $450

1B Professional + Big Fish $470

2A Amateur $250

2B Amateur + Big Fish $270

W Women's Tournament $50

I assume this does not include 333?

Saugatuck 2013

Pro Division: The basic entry fee is $450. If paid by Aug 1st $500 after.

Amateur Division: The basic entry fee is $225. If paid by Aug 1st $275 after.

The Big One Big Fish: additional fee of $50. Open to all boats participating in the tournament.

2nd Chance: additional entry fee of $100 for Pro Division or $50 for Amateur Division

I again assume this does not include 333.

GH offshore

Friday, May 31st - Ladies & Kids Tourney, $150 Pro Division Am Division

Saturday, June 1st & Sunday June 2nd

PRO Division, $450 if paid by May 17, After $525

AM Division, $200 if paid by May 17, After $275

The question is... why???

It almost seems like its a rich boys club who wants to play together because they are afraid they could loose to a weekend warrior.

The way they weed the weekend warriors out is by jacking the price up so high that it's to expensive to play.

Would it not make sence to lower the price draw in more boats??

Can you enter just the 333 in these events?

Just bored and figured I would start a list of who we might see this summer

Killin’ it

FBD

Doggy Style

N2deep

Little buck

Lotion show

Gnarf

Bendin’ Rods

Joel Sanders

Long Lines

Dura Flame

J Deck

Armature hour

Nick of Time

JDH (with the Scooby Snacks boat)

Rumor has it these guys still fish…..

Dirty Dog?

Jim Bobber?

Wild at Heart?

Paulywood?

Holland Pipper??

Reel Talk??

Anyone else?

J Deck, I never use a probe...

You don't need it....

It is a fun league anyone has a chance to win:)

Don't worry I stopped by FBD house and took the 16 # brown he had swimming in the aquarium.

I purchased a 21 foot pro line last year and have found to have no issues with it.

In saying that I also troll on a 9.9 kicker.

Blacks

JD... I used a plug for the back one. It is located at the back next to the drain plug.

The front live well. You can put a drain plug in that one in the live well it keeps it dry.

Dave

Russ do u have pictures of the custom ones?

Are there any new patters for these this year?

I see the new spoons are posted on DW.com, but nothing for the paddles and such.

filleting my own herring and then using the BW powder

If you wanted to use strips how do you go about using the BW stuff?

Sea Mitch,

What brine do you use for ales,

And what process?

Those look nice....

Nice work.

Rascal Trophy Fishing how were you rigging those squids. I bought a pack last year and ran them a few times without a hit.

That boat caught a ton of fish and never let me down.......