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    Trolling Double Dipsey'

    in Salmon Pro's Connection

    Posted

    I've run 3 or 4 diver frequently late in the summer.  It's effective!  I use a mag dipsy with ring on 1 inside (low), and a standard size with mag ring on 3 outside (high).  Have to sometimes get some help while setting divers.  Setting the high first and low second helps.  They will tangle occasionally.

    SoHa 5/23

    in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout

    Posted

    I have a theory that's it's due to the drought.  We didn't have the usual spring flooding the puts lots of warmer muddy water in the lake and helps the lake warm up faster.

    Ive found in the past, the coho and kings usually show up deep first before they move in.

    They just seem to have stayed deep this year.

    Holland 5/15 AM.

    in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout

    Posted

    Fished today in deep water after hearing about good fish offshore.  Started in 180 fow around 6 AM and worked in and out to 205 fow with only 1 coho bite to show for it by 9 am.  At 9 we pulled lines and ran to 275 fow where there was a surface temp break of about 2 degrees colder.  Started picking away at coho and one steelhead there on North and South trolls.  We were 6/8 by noon.  At that point we pulled lines again and reset in 245-250 and put in a midday "king" spread and shortly after were rewarded with some bites.  Pulled lines around 3 pm and ended up 12/15.

    Overall, our best speeds were 2.7 to 3.2 at the ball.

    What worked in 180-200 fow:

            Mag Moonshine Double Trouble - Rigger down 35 - 1/1 Coho

    What worked in 275 fow:

        Superslim orange spoon - 2 Color - 1/1 Steelhead

         Superslim Magic Man - 150 Copper - 2/2 Coho

         ProKing Protroll Chrome Flasher/Fly - Mag Diver back 155 to 185 - 2/2 Coho

        Superslim Michigan Dolphin - Rigger down 65 - 0/1 Coho (got off at back of boat)

        Stinger UV Blue Spoon with dots - 300 Copper - 0 /1

     

    What worked in 250 fow:

        ProKing Mnt Dew Flasher Fly - 400 Copper - 1/1 King

       MI Stinger Green Jeans Flasher Fly - Regular diver back 155 - 1/1 King

       Dreamweaver Mag Caramel Dolphin - Downrigger down 59 - 1/1 King

       Stinger UV Blue Spoon with dots - 100 Copper - 1/1 King

      Silver Streak Mag Blue Chilly Willy - Slide Diver back 155 - 0/1

      Superslim Magic Man - 150 Copper - 2/2 Coho & Steelhead

     

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    Trolling Copper, How much line do you let out after the copper?

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Keep in mind these charts are all approximate and will vary significantly with speed.  That being said, with braid backing, the more braid you let out, the deeper it will run.  Hard to quantify.  If you have say 30 lb mono backing, it won't dive much more at all.  They key to copper and lead core is that it isn't running at the exact depth all the time but swings up and down around the target zone.  Currents can make weird things happen too.  I've hit bottom with a 200 copper before at 2.5 mph due to some weird currents.  Also some days I'm marking fish at 55 feet, and the 400 copper is catching, but the 300 isn't touched.  Likely the 300 didn't go deep enough.

    Holland. Sunday 4/18

    in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout

    Posted

    0 for maybe 1?

    Set lines at 4 pm.  Started in 165 fow working out to 185 and back into 170.  Marked fish 70-90 down and between 120-150 down.  Had a brief hit on a white paddle on the rigger down 135 feet.  Didn't release just bounced a few times and gone.

    Then bumped into 70 fow and trolled NE into 50 fow with laker rigs on the bottom.  Nothing there.  Pulled lines at 7.

    Saw a coho jump out of the water next to the boat in 65 fow.

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    Snaps vs Snap Swivel vs Loop Knots for early spring plugs

    in Salmon Pro's Connection

    Posted

    I used to direct tie crankbaits, but now i just use the snaps (no swivel).  I also use pretty small snaps too.  I run 12# or 15# for all mono boards, and will use 15# leaders on short lead core when fishing shallow.  In these setups, I'll often also tie in a swivel about 6 feet before the lure to prevent excessive line twist if for some reason the lure does rotate (or if mr coho does a bunch of barrel rolls).

    Reel Fill Calculator

    in Salmon Pro's Connection

    Posted

    17 hours ago, Ken Rodenhouse said:

    Something is wrong in the first box. Using the capacity for an Okuma 45 in #test and yards of 20/580, 25/430, 30/330 and your and line on the spreadsheet, I come up with reel capacities of 5.313, 4.8, 4.5 respectively. Sorry to be a potential spoiler 

     

    Here are the numbers for the Okuma.  580/20 (0.42mm), 430/25 (0.48mm), 330/30 (0.55mm)  Notice they us a mm line size for the numbers also. 

    Convert those to inches an plug them into box 1.  0.42 mm = 0.0165 in, 0.48 mm = 0.0189 in, and 0.55 mm = 0.0217 inches.

    Results in calculated reel volumes of 4.465 in3, 4.343 in3, and 4.394 in3.  These are much closer to each other.  I'd assume that you have approximately 4.4 cubic inches to work with.

    Also, see if you can find the line diameter of the exact type of line that you're using when plugging in the data.

    In general for coppers and leadcore, I've found that the 45's work well for up to 200 coppers and up to a 7 color leadcore.  For more than that I prefer the 55's.

    Port Sheldon 8/15 am

    in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout

    Posted

    Launched at 5:30 and had lines in at 6:00 am. Ran 3 miles north to avoid traffic, but that didn't help much!

    From 6:30 to 7:30 we went 3/4 on kings. Then nothing until 11 am where we went 2/2 on lake trout. Pulled lines at 11:30 am.

    Mostly fished 120-150 fow, but did venture a few times into 150-170. Lots of big marks before 9 am and many would follow or swim up to the riggers. Couldn't convince them to bite. Speed variable with the waves - 2.0-3.0 mph.

    300 copper - Fuzzy Bear Flea-4-All spoon - 10 lb king
    Downriggers at 55 ft - Moonshine Flounder Pounder RV - Lost a 20 lb-ish fish to a tangle with my other 300 copper.
    300 copper - Dreamweaver Wonderbread Plug - 27 lbs king. (Hit as I was untangling the bent swivel as a result of the lost king).
    Diver back 325 - Kevorkian SD and poofster fly - 5 lb lake trout
    400 copper - Mt Dew SD and Mirage Fly - Lake Trout.
     

     

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    Port Sheldon 8-13 am live

    in Michigan Waters Fishing Reports - Salmon and Trout

    Posted

    Nice job Brad.

    We ended up 7 for 11.  2 kings, 3 steelhead, 1 lake trout, 1 coho. 

    Summary of the fish:

    King - Mag Diver back 125 - white uv-slick tape spin doctor & poofster fly

    King - Mag Diver back 125 - white uv-slick tape spin doctor & poofster fly

    Steelhead - 300 Copper - Kevorkian Spin Doctor & mirage fly

    Lost Fish - Downrigger at 55 feet - white fish-scale spin doctor & white/green fly

    Lost Fish - Downrigger at 55 feet - white fish-scale spin doctor & white/green fly

    Steelhead - 300 Copper - Kevorvian Spin Doctor & mirage fly

    Lost Fish - Downrigger at 85 feet - 11" Coyote UV/Green Flasher and mirage fly

    Steelhead - 300 Copper - Fuzzy bear flea-for-all spoon

    Lake Trout - Mag Diver back 145 - Kevorkian Spin Doctor & poofster fly

    Coho - Downrigger at 85 feet - white/green uv stinger 8" paddle

    Lost Fish - 300 Copper - Fuzzy bear flea-for-all spoon

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