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  1. Definitely seems to make more sense than 3 yr olds packing on that many pounds in less than year. Especially if you believe that the DNR is right on the prey availability, size, and age structure.

    Agreed that it is difficult to age a fish, but when you catch a 9-12 lb silver hen Chinook (that has the start of next year's egg sacks/skein in her) in Sept or Oct, I am pretty sure that is not a two year old or yearling. Possible its 4 year old if Mark's theory is right.

    Question though: If that happens from time to time, how did the fish in the 70's and 80's get so darn big every year. Are the stories I hear that embellished? Was there that much more and larger bait? Or were those fish also not spawning consistently at 4 years old, but at 5 and combined with better predator prey ratios, just that much bigger on average?

    I know you guys don't have all the answers, but it pretty interesting stuff. Would love to hear the DNR's feedback on that.

  2. Didn't keep the greatest track this year, but based on pictures I went through real quick, I believe we boated 5 fish over 20# this year. And estimating 12 plus fish in the 15-19 lb range; didn't take near enough pictures. Didn't fish the piers at all. All big fish (and most of our good fishing this year) came in 80-130 fow out of Holland. 120-130 fow north of Holland was exceptional for quite awhile. 10" spin doctors with a meat rig or a green fly were consistent big fish producers; although we did take a few 17-19 lbers on coppers with spoons.

    Great fishing in my opinion! Hope we get some more of it next year.

  3. Wasn't in a hurry to get on the water Sunday morning so we got to the launch by 7:30 but then proceeded to flood the engine starting it. Freakin newby captains! :rolleyes:

    Got it started after a guy at the launch gave me a tip on using the throttle only button and giving it full throttle to let it breathe till it starts. Worked great.

    Anyway we went to 100 fow NW of Holland (motoring into the chop; love that new boat...nice dry ride). Trolled SW. Fishing was slow, but the marks were there in force in 120-135 fow so we zig zagged that on N or NE and then SW trolls and went 3/5. 2.5-3.5 SOG. Failed to take pics of the fish but they were all 3 young silver kings....guessing 7-10 lbs. And full of fight! Believe the two we lost were steelies...one of which slammed the 250 copper harder than I've seen all year and after several tumbling leaps must have wrapped or fouled itself in the line and hooks as it felt like a 30 lber and then the hooks pulled.

    Hope to get back out there and enjoy this fall fishery.

    Here's what worked.

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    250 copper; 0/1

    Lots of bait out there on the sonar and in the fish.

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  4. Right on! Looking forward to it Dave. You have to be excited as well to be able to fish on moderately choppy days w/o being soaked or dressed in rain gear on a crystal clear day! Or being chased off the lake when the fishing is good.

    I was doomed to replace my aluminum from the first day I started fishing with Shane aboard Motion Show. I always thought I'd hate the big boat thing...but I am not seeing a down side yet.

    Hope to add to the WMFL list next year.

  5. My buddy Nick and I took the kids out for their first fishing trip on the new boat...picked the right day of the weekend anyway! Fishing was slower Sunday morning than what it has been for us out of Holland.

    Fished north of Tunnel Park in 75-110 fow; set lines around 7:00 and fished to noon or so.

    2/4

    -6-7 lb king ???? Not sure what that came on...Nick?

    -25 lb king on wire diver back 150 w/ 10" Live Wire SD and Proctologist fly (this has been a great combo on the riggers and divers)! Kids tag teamed this one. Thanks Nick for all the help! That's Nick in the pic with the kids and the big fish. :thumb:

    -Lost a fish on the 200 copper w/ meat plug.

    -Lost a decent fish at the back of the boat on high diver back 130 with 10" Live Wire SD & Monkey Puke meat rig. A tough one for an 8 yr old...but he had fun trying.

    Dropped off Nick and my step son; picked up my wife at the launch at 1:30 and anchored up south of Holland on a sand bar and swam with the kids for a few hours. Kids love the boat! Wife is digging it a little too, so only thing to be bummed about is its nearly the end of the season. :(

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  6. Agree with Mark...it has been coming and going out of Holland; but the fish have had bait in them and my sonar was showing massive balls of bait with hooks around it last Thursday...and the fish were aggressively feeding. Not sure what to think about the bait...hoping the balance that is there this year at least holds steady for the next couple of years...then maybe we'll see where this is all going to lead.

  7. 1996 18' Lund Alaskan (owned since 2007); wetlands camo

    1996 60 HP Mercury 2 Stroke outboard; (oil inject) tiller steer

    2002 6 HP Nissan 4 stroke kicker motor purchased new from Van's Marine

    Panther Marine tie rods to fix Mercury and Nissan engines together and to boat frame for stable trolling.

    2011 Minn Kota Terrova 80 w/ iPilot and remote (works great as autopilot for trolling)

    3 batteries (2 Cabelas AGM's dedicated for Minn Kota (2011)

    On board Minn Kota 3 bank battery charger (2011)

    2 Cannon Uni Troll HP manual downriggers w/ weights. Two custom Al pedestals on Berts track for easy removal.

    2 custom Al pedestals w/ dual Berts ratcheting rod holders (1 per side)

    2 Berts Vertical swiveling rod trees w/ top net holder (1 per side)

    Lowrance HDS 5 Sonar/GPS (2010)

    Cobra marine radio

    12 gallon fuel tank (upgraded 3 years ago); 3 gallon fuel tank for kicker engine; Mercury fuel filter/water separator

    800gph auto bilge

    New flooring and gunwale shelf (upgraded 3 years ago) 3/4 exterior plywood wrapped in vinyl w/ polyurethane adhesive and s.s. staples; custom storage cabinets added for battery and tackle storage; LED courtesy lighting.

    Std nav lights.

    3 seats and bases (rear/tiller seat pulls out for more floor space while trolling).

    Single axle 1996 Trailmaster trailer w/ brand new LED lights, new wire harness, 3 yr old Carlisle tires (and a spare), and new carpeted bunks (this year).

    Stored indoors. Cosmetic scratches only...dry hull.

    Have been trolling Lake MI for salmon in this boat for 5 years....this is a great starter rig that is all set to troll for walleye or salmon. Just add tackle. This boat fishes two to three guys and 6-9 rods easily.

    Quickly remove the riggers and rod holders to open up the sides and use the Minn Kota iPilot to electronically anchor for perch, jigging for salmon or walleye, or slipping with the current in a river.

    http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/boa/4037381925.html

  8. Fished the 3+1 in the new boat. Everything is working great; still don't have the fishhawk rigged up yet. Here is a rough break down...lots of other boats did as well or better.

    Congrats to Motion Show on the 1st place and big fish (25#)! Also to Ben'den Rods and Squirrel Cage. What a great season it has been!

    7/11; 5 nice kings, (1) 7 lb coho, 1 shaker king. Didn't get our trout but 3 kings were over 50# with 17.2 being our largest...lost at least one that would be pushing 20.

    65-80 fow south of Holland (sliders to Saugy); 75 was Hot

    North and South trolls at 2.3-2.6 SOG worked for us

    Hit all of our fish from 6:30 - 8:30 and hits often coming in doubles; our meat program died quickly at sunset. Should have pulled them and set up glow plugs and spoons for the fun to continue.

    High divers 120-150 back w/ 10" UV Showtime or Black/Crush-glow SD and meat rigs took several strikes...lost track to be honest. 4 kings.

    Low/Wire Divers 100 back w/ 10" Live Wire SD & Proctologist took 2-3 hits. 1 king.

    Rigger w/ green splatter back plug (down 50) took a hit. Lost.

    250 copper w/ blue flounder pounder took 1. 1 shaker.

    200 copper w/ green ladder back meat plug took 2 rips. landed 1 coho.

  9. Pretty excited :D ...am the proud owner of a '91 Pursuit 2150 Express Cuddy. 4.3 liter Mercruiser engine and drive. Raymarine autopilot, a couple of Lowrance units, Canon Uni Mag 10's, a bimini w/ eglas, and a canvas cover. Been out in it twice (LOVE IT) and will see what we can do in the Holland 3+1 on Thursday. Haven't decided on a name yet and may not until next spring. Just been working on the layout and preparing to sell my '96 18' Lund Alaskan, which has been a great (although unintentional) starter boat for great lakes trolling. Hope it will serve someone else as well.

    Will post some details or a craigslist link on the Lund if anyone is interested by the holiday weekend.

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  10. Agreed that evening bite can be tough...mostly at sunset...but occasionally, like last Friday very good all evening. Out of Holland in a new boat for a 2.5 hour trip to try to get a feel for the new rig and went 6/11. Fished 6:00-8:30 with first fish as we were setting the first rigger....fishing continued to be strong throughout until sunset and we had to go to have a crew member home on time for family. Isn't normally like that so early for me, but it seems to be like many have mentioned this year...set down on active pods of fish with bait around and WATCH OUT!

    Take a look at this Lowrance. Water inside and outside of this was much slower with fewer marks.

    One of my lessons learned is to spend a little time slowing down and using the Lowrance to spot bait/fish before totally committing to a depth. Will be doing more of that.

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  11. Launched at 5:30 after waiting in line awhile...very busy with the good fishing and the tournament in Saugatuck. A good friend was in his boat with a son and son's friend. I had another of his boys and boy's girlfriend on board. Cody and Liz did great!

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    Motored north, most of the way to Port Sheldon. Set up in 75 fow to check that predawn. Found one laker there as we were setting lines. Was quiet until we hit 118 on our NW troll. We circled (sometimes due to boat traffic) running north and south troll or nw/se trolls through 118 - 130 from Port Sheldon to Tunnel Park. Action slowed by 10:00 leaving us 7/8. Cold water was up higher than my last outing....50 foot range.

    Laker came on wire diver back 150 (1.5) mountain dew spinny and proctoligist fly.

    250 copper with blue flounder pounder took 5 hits...landed 4 (7-16 lb kings)

    Rigger down 50 with blue dolphin looking spinny and blue/glow meat rig took 2 great rips with a 16 and an 18 lb king.

    Troll speed was the nutty part....I typically run 2.5-3.2 at the ball (mostly 2.5 - 2.8). Could not buy a bite above 2.4 at the ball....2.0-2.2 seemed best.

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