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8" green spinny with crushed glow and a pickled sunshine behind it on a wire dipsy was super for us last year. Seemed like the more strands that came off the fly and the thinner it got the hotter it became. Took 2 20's off it.

the Brad's cut plugs are the cat's meow. Especially behind a tin can when the sun is high in the sky. We had great success running one in the spread last year, either behind a dipsy or off a rigger. I cut herring filets to fit inside of the cavity. This year I would like to try canned tuna in them. Just am not sure how long the tuna will last once it is dragged around for a while. We also had real good hookups with the big weinie teaser in front of a bait head behind a flasher. I think sometimes fish just want to smell and see something different. herring

is that rocket launcher chrome or polished aluminum? Sweet! Sell that Ranger in the corner and by some sweet stuff for that rig, cap'n!

sorry John, that all came from an article in Great Lakes Angler. The owner mentioned in the article that they would be able to fill custom orders. The motor and arm stuff came from another fisherman.

Vectors are being made again! Traxtech owns the rights to them now. They build them per order and will make you any length arms you want and even customize the motor for speed! They do not, although, honor the original warranties provided by Vector.

Nice work! There sure are some great deals on some pretty nice rigs out there right now!!

Jeezzzzzzzzz o pete's! Here we go again! Come on everyone chime in and we'll have another argument.

Don't say "man, I think we are going catch alot fish today" when you are at the dock getting ready to head out.

Best tip yet! Now we just say "we'll see what happens"

Don't radio fish. Rely on your waypoints and wisdom!

We've ran Okuma's for years with no problems. Use Shimano Charter Specials for the rigger rods, but everything else is Convectors. 55's for full cores are awesome! We also have a 55 spooled with 450' of copper, again awesome! You will not be dissapointed if you take care of them!

Life sucks, fishing doesn't. Can't we all just get along and take a little razzing? I'd like to meet you all someday and I'll bet the farm we don't all agree on what is funny and what is not!

Let's fish and not worry about how much it costs us! Is that what it is all about?

Nice work! Hopefully this weekend things might lay down and we can get on 'em. Thanks for the report!

Hey now, ya all let's not let one person's rant ruin a great website! Enough talk about all this let's get to the fishing talk!!!!

When we first started this adventure in salmon catching I ran a regular sized spoon about 2' behind a spin doctor. When I told others that we were catching fish on it they looked at me funny! Hell, we had no idea what how to run flashers. We were flying by the seat of our pants and it worked, sometimes! I do believe that thinking outside the box gets you fish sometimes when others are struggling with the same ol', same ol'.

Weird thing, but this year we have hit our biggest kings when the sun is high in the sky. We hit a few back in June when everyone said South Haven was dead at 5:00 pm. I think it has a lot to do with being in the right place at the right time and having your best big king spread out!

I believe you are all on to something here, but the reason this all started was not to recognize whether or not the rules were understandable, it was to try to make them so there were no loopholes. The tournaments I fished in had volunteer observers that were put on the top 5 boats in the pro and amateur division. I know that earlier this year the TT was trying to educate observers and was advertising for interested parties. I don't know how this all panned out. We did not fish any of the TT events this year because of money and time.

I know that the money is not there yet, but what about running video cameras on every pro boat, or at the very least paid observers on every boat. Would it be worth the extra 20 to 50 bucks, maybe more, for every pro team to make sure the rules were enforced?

With the end of the Tournament Trail coming up I was wondering how many of you fished or are planning on fishing any of them this year. Saugatuck is this coming weekend!!

"doh!"

I believe this is not at all about Dave and Bill but more about how the rules are, or better yet are not being enforced on the biggest Great Lakes tournament trail. I do believe that Fred and the tournament trail directors may be forced to make an example of the most decorated team ever on Lake Michigan to prove the point that unfair practices while on the water will not be tolerated. In my opinion it is too bad it had to come to this, but to better enforce the rules and to ensure an even playing field it may have to be done.

I do believe that some serious rule changes need to be considered. I personally think that catching 15 and weighing 10 in some tournaments is way overboard. I also think that the rules need to be exactly the same in every port. Maybe separate rules for amateurs and pros, but they need to be the same. I have sat through the captain's meetings before on tournament trail events and they are more confusing than informative. Please don't turn this into a Best Chance Too thing, but I would like to hear some comments on how to make the rules more foolproof, maybe like the Bassmasters or FLW or something. Feel free to move this and let's talk about how to make these tournaments, which are fantastic fun, more fair!

Spoonfed is correct. Holland sent their check back. From others in the tourney and around the docks I heard that the Holland Big Red Classic is a invitational tournament and I guess they decided not to invite Dave and Bill. Take that as you will, it is just what I heard.

Ah' date=' you must have read 1/3 of the post.

Two big fish would have gotten you jack (&*)& this weekend.

It was about numbers and many good fisherman had trouble getting numbers after sun up. I rarely ruffle feathers here, as you can see by my other posts, whcih are very complimentary, but I have you say that diesel is getting on my nerves with his retorts.

If you are in the competition then you had a chance to weigh your fish and it would have counted. If you were not, then don't wish you were. Pony up the money and play.

Sorry if I am offending some of you, but think about how those of us that were in the tournament and did pay to play feel about your comments.[/quote']

now, now. I was just asking a question. We fished many of the tournament trail events for many years. I never received an answer to this question when we fished them. We are by no means professional, but seem to be able to get on decent fish, but the numbers are usually not there. All I wanted to know was would you waste your time trying to pick up a couple teeners or would you go for tiny jacks and 2 year olds. I completely understand the points system. But being that a lot of money is at stake in the 333 and big fish and big species, what would you do?

If it were mine I'd go with 2 full cores. That way after you tangle the first one in your dipsy you can cut it down to 5 or 7 colors! It's bound to happen so you might as well start big! Really though full cores are not that bad to reel in, I am going to have to say I would rather reel a full core in any day over 450 feet of copper! That copper is HEAVY, but it catches fish! We have caught a lot of fish on full cores and a lot of fish on 5 and 7 colors. When we first started running boards we started with 2 full cores, one on each side.

I just took a look at the Holland Big Red Classic results from Saturday August 7th, 2010. Seems that numbers won the tournament. Giv-N-The Bird won the pros with 10 fish weighing 82.25 lbs and Pier Addiction won the amateur side with 10 fish weighing 97.35 lbs. We did not enter the tournament, but watched as all the boats trolled right by us while we were fishing out of Saugatuck. We were on big fish, that now looking back would have won big salmon, big fish, and the 3 we had would have taken the 333. Dan who fishes with us calibrated the scale in the boat tonight and found out it is measuring 3 pounds light!!!! Wow!!!

Anyways I guess my question is when fishing a tournament and you get on big fish, not big numbers, do you stay on them? Or do you peel off and go for your limit hoping that a nice fish will come?

The results are here http://www.bigredclassic.com/staticscore10.php

What about running sliders on the downriggers?

As far as I know, or am concerned you are able to run sliders and it only counts as one rod. The law states 3 rods, not 3 lures.