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Well after south trolls post about fish not really fighting I just setup another 300 45lb thank you both for the info. I only run the tx-44 on my 45lb so I couldn't imagine running 60lb off anything less.

so did anyone try the 60 lb.? thoughts, ideas? would you reccomend it to a late july august fishermen?

I used to run the Twilli tips and they were ok but I tried the Torpedo Tips and liked them a lot better. Not nearly as much resistance. Might want to give them a try if you haven't already installed the Twilli's since there isn't much price difference. JMO. Now I run Talora rollers and like them a lot.

https://www.torpedodivers.com/scart/product_details.asp?ItemNum=V0010

$34.99 twili tips are like 8 bucks!

I run all 45lb as well 300 is my longest have two of them best poles in the water after 10 o clock in july and august. I will be looking at this new 60lb when all the reviews and dive curves come back though.

If the strip is firmer before brine, brine is not strong enough and your never gonna be able to use homemade strips for more than one fish. store bought strips are basically jerky they are salted so heavily, but that process also absorbs alot of the smell.

I would bet its the releases if your fishing meat the hooks should be swallowed your not hooking up quick enough and something is happening with the hooks then. Like I said 3 years no problem. Or maybe if your running strips the hooks not being in the bait and just flailing around are it. They will work with one hook in the heat of the bite when a hook breaks off in the net i will run 1 hook meat rigs till I get time to retie.

I have ran them for 3 years without a problem.Iif you get rid of 1 of the hooks it only stands to reason your gonna miss more fish with half the hooks. Are you running strips? maybe your not getting a good hook up at first what do you use for releases?

I was gonna say Bass Pro but they dont have either of the things you are looking for!

Use them all the time. Peir head kings love them.

I use coho eggs for the color and toughness and Atlas mikes orange cure.

good luck finding a hotel or campsite everything is usually booked by june.

Anything John King makes catches fish.

Do your meat rigs glow? That would be the only explanation I could thinkof for your meat shutting down prime time.

I have problems with mics for some reason same antenna for 26 years 4th radio due to mics failing.

:grin:Frank's Red Hot, I put that sh-t on everything

solderinG a loop in the copper is the way to go it goes through the eyes and reel guides much smoother than the bailing wire twist .

I think your overthinkin the walleye all this copper and leadcore is a waste of time for walleye. your fishing either saginaw bay or lake erie 2 of the most dirty bodies of water in michigan. I use inline weights for a dollar a piece and never have to put more than 40 feet out in saginaw bay, lake erie, or lake huron. when your fishin no farther then 40 ft from the boat there is alot less chance of some ahole cuttin your equiptment off because lets face it there are alot more aholes walleye fishin then salmon fishin. if your dead set on usin your copper you could always just use a snap weight too.

This is what I use for depth calculations:

Leadcore - sinks 4 ft per color

Example: 5 color

5*4 = 20ft

32lb Copper - divide the feet of copper by a factor of 5

Example: 200ft 32lb copper

200 / 5 = 50ft

Thats also some pretty heavy leadcore you got there.

45lb Copper - divide the feet of copper by a factor of 4

Example: 300ft 45lb copper

300 / 4 = 75ft

It's not 100% exact but it gets you close. I personally think 45lb copper doesnt get as deep as some think it does.

So a 3 color in a short core would be 60ft of 32lb or 50ft 45lb and then a 5 color would be 100ft of 32lb or 80ft 45lb. At that short of a length I bet 32 and 45 are pretty close in depth.

um 45 is heavier than 32 this is blood runs dive chart for 32

25′ copper – 5 feet down

50′ copper – 10 feet down

75′ copper – 15 feet down

100′ copper – 20 feet down

150′ copper – 30 feet down

200′ copper – 40 feet down

250′ copper – 50 feet down

300′ copper – 60 feet down

350′ copper – 70 feet down

400′ copper – 80 feet down

450′ copper – 90 feet down

500′ copper – 100 feet down

550′ copper – 110 feet down

600′ copper – 120 feet down

I would say the 45 is close to what you got.

Thats also some pretty heavy leadcore you got.

I like your spread and like to have 2 - 300 coppers in August when the fish are deep so I can have one on each side. .

Never done the ball thing worked fine for 3 years now with same wire. usually your kinks will be within a foot or two of your crimp anyway so you wont lose much. its really hard for mr to let inexpierenced people touch my wire rods though I just cringe when they are free spooling them out. hottest 2 rods in the boat last year!

we usually run 2 oz snap weights run the lure out 50' then snap on we usually figure with spoons and crawler harnesses 2' out is 1' down but if your putting flashers on they gonna drag harder your guess is as good as mine. put em on a downrigger then you know where they are just run the 50' lead.

If its on a board you wont have to worry about it. I know alot of guys that shute core and they say they just move it opposite side of fish coming in, but I aint one of those guys nothing belongs in the shute except hooked fish.

Yeah what everyone else said more abrasion resistant!

i use 3/0

I honestly dont see why they wouldnt work they have the same reflective scales as a herring or smelt their body is just wider but you can trim that up. They are probally fatter that herring or smelt so they should be smellier and greasier.