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RiverRat
03-01-2007, 08:48 PM
I saw the video on there site. looks like a good product.
I run canon downriggers with positive ion control, and have many buddies that run the black box, and we have agreed we catch 50% more fish with the positive ion control. has anyone run the shark with there positive ion control set up, I asked shark already they think positive ion does not work.

But It's proven it does attaract fish, I think the shark and ion control would a awsome combo .

HitMan
03-01-2007, 09:35 PM
We tried the Shark Cannonballs about four-five years ago when they first came out. The creator came to Chinook Pier in Grand Haven and passed them out for boats to try. I know a lot of people like them and swear by them. Personally, I do not like them. I thought the bright silver ones scared the fish and they definitely affected our normal catch rates and spread efficiency. Many of the guys I know use the black coated ones.

We are stuck in a rut and will not use anything but JimBob's Weights. They are a custom designed pancake type weight with an adjustable tail for direction dialing. When you get used to something and have a lot of confidence in it, it is hard to switch to something new and still have confidence in your spread. The Shark Cannonballs definitely messed up our normal spread and consequently our confidence. But that is just my thoughts and opinion.

CaptLevi
03-01-2007, 11:43 PM
I actually thought they messed with my spread also. Especially if we got near a beach. they had a tendency to attack swimmers without provocation.:D

Satisfaxion_Gauranteed
03-02-2007, 07:47 AM
I actually thought they messed with my spread also. Especially if we got near a beach. they had a tendency to attack swimmers without provocation.:D

Ahh, the sharks just thought the swimmers were seals :D

When I first started fishing, I used cheap lead weights with small fins. I slowly converted to black coated weights with small fins. Toward the end of the year last year, I went to using pancake style weights with black coating and really like them. I think it gives me good 'tune ability' to set up my spread, particularly with my boat that only has an 8' beam. I personally think that downriggers weights is as much a success based on comfort as it is the type of weight you use. I've never used the shark weights, so I don't know much about them.

Any other thoughts on the black box/positive ion control? I have never run one, so I don't have any experience on them. I have always been curious though.

silver one
03-02-2007, 08:57 AM
Ive always run the black coated lead balls by cannon with a trailing fin.
What are some of the differences that you guys are seening in the way the pancake weights run vs the cannonballs?

tbromund
03-02-2007, 10:17 AM
I haven't used the sharks, mostly I've used the 12 lb black tru-trac finned balls. Last year I got a pair of the 13 lb torpedos from ATOMMIK and those worked fine, significantly less blowback on the probe rigger than with the balls.

I hear the same comments from people about the sharks as I do about the Ridgeback Rattlers, some times they help, some times they hurt, it depends on the mood of the fish. On aggressive fish I believe they will help pull fish in, on neutral/passive fish they may be a negative.

Regarding the black box, I got one a couple of years ago after I used the multi meter and found my boat has a grounding problem somewhere and was throwing (according to the pro-troll documentation) a repelling chage around the boat. I had never given the notion much credence since I didn't believe that non-mineralized fresh water would carry enough charge to make a difference, however, when I first got my current boat, I had a heck of a time taking a fish on the riggers. Divers and cores accounted for 90%+ of my catch, which was absolutely not the case on my previous boat. I decided it was worth the 100 scoots to give it a shot and guess what, my riggers the past two seasons have once again become my hottest setups, espcially with short leads. Since I retired the Fish Hawk and added the Depth Raider this past season (and also took off the old Mag 10s and are just running my 2 Scotty elecs) with the coated cable on my probe rigger, I now only have the BB hooked up to one rigger, but that rigger consistently fires for me.

I think it depends on the boat. If there are no electrical issues on the boat to begin with, a BB or positive ion control will probably have no significant impact, for boats like mine that have grounding gremlins, they are a big asset and are a lot simpler fix than trying to find the ground problem, especially for those of us that are not electrically inclined.

Tim

Tim

HitMan
03-02-2007, 03:05 PM
We run two of JimBob's pancake style weights with the adjustable fins on our two outdown riggers. We bend the fins approriately for each side of the boat so they pull away from the boat. The tracking is awesome with these weights and you can bend the fin as far as you so choose. We then use a JimBob's regular round weight on our center downrigger. We only fish with 3 downriggers. All JimBob's downrigger weights we use are Chartreuse in color.

GLF
03-02-2007, 09:38 PM
I have not ran any of these yet. I am a tinkerer, and I like to find out what makes something tick.

I spent 4 years in the USN. I have been on 5 different aircraft carriers, 3 nukes and 2 conventionals. I have a good idea on how fast a carrier will go. Ever wonder how fast a submarine will go? You would be surprised at how fast a sub goes. I have an idea, but no one really knows. I do know that they can out run any surface ship! Why? A submarine does not have the friction in the water like a surface ship. Ever wonder why a submarine is shaped the way it is shaped? Minimum drag. If you look at the shape of a shark cannonball, you can tell that it is designed for minimum drag. Less drag, means less blow back.

Chrome cannonballs have been around for a long time. My father use to run some in his spread in the 80's. He did not run the chrome ones all the time. There is a time and place for everything.